Date my Globe!

[Ned]

Come on guys, this is as "World" Piggy Bank

[Ned]

Is there anything all inconsistent with this not being the world in 1918 or early 1919, given some time lag to actually get the map on the product?

The point about the German border probably reflects that it was unsettled in 1918. Ditto the enclave around Koernigsburg. These probably came in later by vote: i.e., they voted to stay with Germany.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by cinch
Well, Labrador as a whole certainly wasn't part of the Dominion at its inception (1867):

The southern part of Labrador *was* originally part of Quebec, though, as you can see (if the picture shows).

And, apparently, most of Labrador (save for the extreme coast?) was part of Quebec or the NWT until 1949:

None of that really matters, though, because on the globe, Newfoundland is the same colour as Canada, while Labrador is not. That's just plain silly.

There was a dispute back then about who actually controlled Labrador. Quebec claimed a large chunk of it, as the maps you posted showed. The boundary dispute ended with Nfld entering confederation, however it is common for Quebec maps tol show Labrador as being part of Quebec.

This globe may have been produced at the end of '48 when Nfld was joining Canada, but before all the details were ironed out.

Maybe Flubber can help us out. I think he's a Newf.

[Straybow]

Tannu Tuva was independent for some period, then was a "protectorate" or some such of the Soviet Union, and then was annexed and dissolved, maybe 1956?

[Ned]

The Western part of the USSR is named "Siberian Union"

This has got to be before 1922 and after the close of the war in Nov. 11, 1918.

[Straybow]

OK, OK

Ned, you have a point about "World" Bank. I still say post-WWII. But since most of Africa is still British, French, and Belgian; Germany is not officially divided; it is quite shortly after WWII.

[Straybow]

The war between Ecuador and Peru was 1925, and Peru took almost all of Ecuador's Amazon possessions (about half of Ecuador's territory). Looks like this is after Ecuador took some of it back. There may have been a third war, but my S. Am. history is sketchy after 20+ years.

[Ned]

Straybow, As I said, not all of Germany was formed in 1918. I can get the details if you want. But there were elections held to decide where certain areas would end up. If this map was drawn in December of 1918, it probably would have shown Germany only as its core element. I believe the "wedge" previously described is Pomerania which joined Germany in 1919 or 1920. East Prussia also joined after the 1919 treaty.

The map of Germany depicted corresponds, to the best as I can figure out, to the borders as defined in the Treaty of Versailles. Here is a link.

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/imt/partii.htm

[Nubclear]

This globe warps time

Originally posted by ranskaldan


Tannu Tuva = a strip of land that the USSR stole from Mongolia.

STOLE?! IT WAS OURS TO BEGIN WITH AND OURS IT SHALL STAY!

[Ned]

Actually, this world piggy back might actually be very valuable.

[Nubclear]

Originally posted by Hueij

Damn, at times like this I wish English was my first language. People tell jokes and I totally completely don't get what they are talking about

"You wanna go out on a date?"
"You wanna date me?"
"You wanna date my wife?"
"You wanna date my globe?"

Get it?

[gsmoove23]

Ned, I appreciate you trying to push back the age of my globe but I have to go with the consensus here, though I lean toward an earlier 1946 date. As it seems my thread may be winding toward its end I will share with you the last two interesting bits of my globe and may you all have a good night...



The French kick ass.

P.S. The USSR is labelled Soviet Union, the picture of east Asia may make it look like Siberian Union, but 'Siberian' is actually Siberia and 'Soviet' is to the west of 'Union'.

[gsmoove23]

The Netherlands kick ass too.

Requests for more globe pictures will be dutifully responded to and if anyone has interesting globes or maps to share please post or any interesting antiques for that matter.

P.S. It might be helpful if I could figure out when the Ohio Art Company was formed, can't find a link tho...

[Imran Siddiqui]

Is there anything all inconsistent with this not being the world in 1918 or early 1919, given some time lag to actually get the map on the product?

Yeah, most strikingly, the word 'Israel' on the map. There was no such thing in 1919.

It MUST be 1946 - 1948.

[Straybow]

Yes, but Pommeramia and East Prussia would not be shown as part of Poland, wold they? (And don't forget about the Schlesweig-Holstein!)

Just can't be pre-WWII. Poland would have extended 150 miles farther East, curving up around Lithuania. That didn't change in the interwar period. Lithuania, along with Estonia and Latvia, were not annexed to the Soviet Union until 1940. (Here shown as of 1937)