Date my Globe!

[Ned]

We seem to have it narrowed to between 1920 and 1932. The French united Lebanon and Syria in 1920. Saudi Arabia was formed in 1933.

[ranskaldan]

The border between Germany and Poland is post-1945 though.

[Edan]

I vote that it was made in an alternate time line where the planet actually had borders like that all at one time, and somehow got to this one in some time/space wormhole.

[Ned]

Originally posted by ranskaldan
The border between Germany and Poland is post-1945 though.

No it is not. This shows a united Germany with post-WWI borders. All maps post WWII showed East and West Germany.

It does not show the Free City of Danzig. That came into being in 1920.

Do we have a date then?

1920?

[korn469]

gsmoove23

i had one of those globes back in the day (sometime in the 80's when i was a kid), i think i threw it in the trash when i was moving though

[Ned]

Also, Manchuria being separate, but Chinese blue, dates it from 1918-1931.

[ranskaldan]

Originally posted by Ned


No it is not. This shows a united Germany with post-WWI borders. All maps post WWII showed East and West Germany.

It does not show the Free City of Danzig. That came into being in 1920.

Do we have a date then?

1920?

Post-WWI Germany had the East Prussian exclave. It also had most of south Baltic coast and Silesia. That makes for a "<"-shaped border with Poland (not considering East Prussia).

Post-WWII Germany had its border along the Oder and Neisse - a near-perfect straight from north to south - which is exactly what this map shows.

Post-WWII maps did not show East and West Germany until after the western sectors united to form West Germany (and the Russian sector became East Germany).

That places the map in around '47~'48.

and as for Manchuria: Manchukuo was formed in 1931. Before that Manchuria was composed of Chinese provinces (4 of them, to be exact) like the rest of China.

[GePap]

Also, there are not Baltic republics and Poland's eastern border is at the Curzon line. Thus it must be post 1945.

[Adam Smith]

This globe is the ultimate source of all American confusion about world geography.
A veritable Holy Grail of geographical ignorance.
Its value as an historical relic is beyond price.

[gsmoove23]

Damn AS, what did my globe ever do to you. I defy you to keep up with the ever changing borders of the time period, much less print them on a tin globe with a diameter of four inches. Here, take a seat and have a gander at some more under regions of my globe...



Whats the deal with the weird Ecuador-Peru border and why is Bolivia on steroids? I didn't realize there was much shifting of borders in S America.

[GePap]

Most likely, the folks who made that globe had some old maps lying around and just cobbled them together. It's not like anyone was going to plan atrip based on them.

[Ned]

No Baltic Stqtes?

They were formed in 1918.

This could be 1918 since it also shows Manchuria which was formed in the same year.

As to Syria/Lebanon, I suspect that this was the plan to have them united in 1918.

Also in 1918, there was no BRITISH MANDATE. But there was the Balfour Declaration making Palestine the Jewish Homeland.

1918 is looking real promisng.

[gsmoove23]

Ecuador and Peru had 3 wars resulting from border disputes, the first in 1942.

and

Bolivia's territory had always been coveted by its neighbors, encompassing as it did over 2 million square kilometers (780,000 sq mi). Chile's desire for more land first bore fruit in the War of the Pacific, which it fought with Bolivia between 1879 and 1884. Chile triumphed, securing 850km (527mi) of coastline and robbing Bolivia of the port of Antofagasta, leaving the country landlocked. Soon after, Peru, Brazil and Argentina also began hacking away at Bolivia's borders. In 1932, a border dispute with Paraguay in the Chaco region over oil deposits stripped Bolivia of further land. The ensuing Chaco War (1932-1935) also served to foment civil unrest within the country, promulgating reformist associations and leading to a series of coups by reform-minded military leaders.

I did not know that. It looks like, assuming it was printed in the 40s, they ddn't care to look into changes to the Bolivian border.

[Tingkai]

This globe is from the World Bank. Knowing them, it was probably made last year.

[GePap]

If the World bank put it out, obviously it is past 1945, since there was no World Bank before WW2.