Cloak & Dagger

[mostly-harmless]

Apparently PAL paused the game, according to an Imperio player in the Pitboss connection thread.

I agree it is annoying to have to wait even longer for a new turn, especially now that there is so much going on.

mh

[Zeviz]

Can we make a guess about whether Templars have trained or are training a Settler? (Or has the game gone too far for such precise intelligence?)

[mostly-harmless]

Unless Sullla pulls something out of his hat, I would say it is not possible for us to predict Templars builds that precise anymore.

I can tell you that Jerusalem sits at size4 since 20 turns! But they have not the best terrain for growth.
They certainly have not whipped anything yet (still waiting for them to revolt to slavery).

But I have the gut feeling a settler is on the way to Iron already, especially since they did not need any settler to claim the SouthEast due to the captured barb city.

mh

[Sullla]

No, once the civ gets to two cities, it's all but impossible to follow city builds. But we can guess...

I have Templars build axe, archer, quechua in the Soldier tables for T71, T72, and T73, and another axe on T77. They captured the barb city (Libyan/Damascus) a few turns later, on T79. Throughout that period, the Food/Production tables were very flat; the Templars were running at 19 food/17 shields or 17/19 for almost the whole time. It's very likely that one of their two cities has either built a settler, or is building one right now.

Still, I'm not as pessimistic as mostly_harmless. Even if the Templars do settle near the iron, we can probably still win it away from them with culture (although whether we SHOULD do so is open to question). We are also rather close to finishing our own settler, so hopefully things will work out...

We can always whip our settler too, if we should see a race developing.

[mostly-harmless]

@ Sullla: I have Imperio down with researching a classical tech this turn. Since it does not show up it must be "hidden" behind Priesthood. Any ideas?

mh

[Swiss Pauli]

Is CoL a classical tech? It's the only tech I can see that would be blocked by Priesthood.

[regoarrarr]

But if that was the case we'd have a religion founded announcement. Could it be Monarchy?

[T-hawk]

Imperio researched Monarchy. The "Can Research" screen for them shows Code of Laws and Feudalism available.

[mostly-harmless]

Ah, yes. Very good T-Hawk.

mh

[Sullla]

Pretty bad news for us. We have to hope that PAL won't try and trade Code of Laws with Imperio instead of us now...

It's really difficult keeping up with their gold resources and floodplains tiles.

[T-hawk]

A note from the "Uh-Oh" department...

The Oracle hasn't been built yet, right? Is the door open for Imperio to slingshot Feudalism and longbows?

[mostly-harmless]

Stonehenge, Great Wall & Pyramids have been built.
Oracle is still out there.

Imperio also got an Great Prophet this turn.
Could they lightbulb anything of importance?

mh

[Swiss Pauli]

We have to hope (and expect) that PAL decides to honour its commitment to the deal. If they doesn't, we'll badmouth them to the other teams, but if PAL has the techs then they'll still be takers for deals. Let's hope it doesn't come to this!

[Kylearan]

Hi,

Originally posted by T-hawk
The Oracle hasn't been built yet

I also wondered about that. I hope not all teams overdo the meta-game, not daring to go for the Oracle because they think another team surely will and the risk would be too high...until someone finally does and slingshot a really expensive/powerful tech...

-Kylearan

[Swiss Pauli]

I think Imperio's Prophet would bulb Theology, but maybe they'd be better off with the shrine?