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  • I had similar info from crescentfresh via PM.

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    • We are still giving horses to PAL. Should we ask for them back?

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      • The trade can be canceled in two turns.

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        • We'll be able to cancel the horses trade to PAL next turn. Before that happens, we need to decide as a team what our plan of action will be. As I see it, there are a couple of possible actions:

          - Cancel the horses deal, and ask for some kind of return benefit from PAL if they want it to continue.

          - Cancel the horses deal, and take no further action.

          - Allow the deal to continue, and ask for some kind of return benefit from PAL.

          - Allow the deal to continue, and take no further action.

          Whatever our response might be, we should send some kind of email message to PAL explaining our actions. First let's figure out what we want to do, then craft a suitable message to them.

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          • I'd propose to say that we're going to cancel the gift, but would be willing to consider trading the horses for something in return.

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            • Cancel the horses deal, and take no further action.

              And sending "Hope you could sort out that barb problem."

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              • What Swiss said.

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                • Definitely cancel it. I have no opinion on whether to also send a taunt.

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                  • That's a decisive majority, so we're canceling that deal at the start of next turn. Can someone from the diplo core send off a quick message to PAL letting them know? (Ideally, we send them the message at the very start of next turn, right AFTER canceling horses in-game. No need to warn them ahead of time, and they should already be expecting us to cancel the deal anyway.) Thanks.

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                    • suggestion on message to PAL ...

                      Guys,

                      I hope you got full use of our horses to squash those barbarians. We are (have?) canceled the deal in-game.

                      Cheers,

                      Team RB
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                      • Looks good, but please add one more line:

                        We'll be happy to continue providing you with horses in exchange for a happiness resource.

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                        • Originally posted by Zeviz View Post
                          Looks good, but please add one more line:

                          We'll be happy to continue providing you with horses in exchange for a happiness resource.
                          How about "We'll be happy to continue providing you with horses in exchange for some other mutually agreed-upon resource." - Let's keep open the possibility of getting ivory or metal from them.

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                          • Yes, that's better. I just forgot that they might be able to sell us Iron. (And Ivory is a "happiness" resource. )

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                            • new email address for PAL ... paldiplo@gmail.com
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                              woo hoo! My wife publishes her first book. Buy it now in paperback format at lulu and help me retire so I can write more BUG mod code.

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                              • PAL has their own source of horses, as revealed by the trade screen.

                                Can we get some opinions on whether to ask for gems right now?

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