Oppositions to Arabs

[Tattila the Hun]

Finnish?

Have to have a counter-weight to the Russians...

[Traelin]

Originally posted by gsmoove23
You should realize you're posting to an atheist.

Actually I didn't realize it. I just thought you leaned a bit toward the left.

[Ozymandias]

Originally posted by sabrewolf
sino (chinese): afaik usually buddhists
soviet: majority russian-orthodox (christians)

Both SEVERELY repressed under Communist rule. Most of the soldiers on both sides in the 1970s would never have been exposed to religion at all.

-- Now, on the other hand, I really do think that, e.g., Maoism can, for all intents and purposes, be viewed as a religion -- that is, if you're willing to unleash a lengthy deconstruction of what "religion" is Given that few of us can agree on what a civilization is, perhaps we should hold off on that debate until Civ4 ...

All the Best,

Oz

[Traelin]

Originally posted by Ozymandias
Given that few of us can agree on what a civilization is, perhaps we should hold off on that debate until Civ4 ...

All the Best,

Oz

LOL so true so true...

[Ozymandias]

Originally posted by gsmoove23
You notice how no one ever says "you're right I agree with you" after an arguement? Its damn annoying cause I'm almost always right and I'd like some acknowledgement once in awhile

I agree, in spirit -- (and, gsmoove, this is in NO WAY directed to you!) I think that's the difference beween an "argument" and a "discussion".

-Oz

[gsmoove23]

Originally posted by gsmoove23
You should realize you're posting to an atheist.

It seemed like such an innocent post at the time. As for one less thing to fight for, atheism, I think the word means that I do not believe in a God or Gods. This does not mean I reject an underlying order to the universe or I don't have certain beliefs that I take on faith which makes me sometimes wonder if I don't still have a religion, albeit disorganized. I've seen some fundamentalist atheists and they're downright awful.

[gsmoove23]

Originally posted by Ozymandias


I agree, in spirit -- (and, gsmoove, this is in NO WAY directed to you!) I think that's the difference beween an "argument" and a "discussion".

-Oz

You mean there's a distinction I think I've just been having arguements all the time

[Buster13]

How about a whole new level of Civ insanity:

Religious Preference:

You could research them just like governments, could incorporate with the polytheistic and monotheistic techs that exist already, but could add...

Atheism (the middle-ground between switching religions)
Christianity (Bonus to production but -1 happiness per city due to guilt).
Taoism (penalty to production unless enlightened and then every build is instantanous since it's action through inaction, reduces pollution)
Judaism (bonus to gold, military unit costs reduced, penalty to happiness since the promised one hasn't come for 4000 years...)
Confusionism (Bonus to Science, penalty to production because of all the time quoting Confusious)
Druidic (Bonus to Food growth, requires two fur resources to maintain the Clerical wardrobe, or you slip into atheism)
Islam (dare I go there....I....I just can't) Bonus to happiness since they don't carry the Christian guilt, resistence to propaganda except from own government, resistent to Democracy. There, I almost did it...
Anglican (Makes up own rules)
Methodist (Same as christianity with a gold bonus)
Shinto (+2 happiness per city, cannot exist during wartime)
Zen...........

[roalan]

Religion

Religions are the cause of wars and killing not the Almighty.That is all I ment,I believe in the Lord but not in religions because man makes up his own rules in Gods name and if you do not obey then the threats come and the killing is not far behind.

[gsmoove23]

Originally posted by Buster13
How about a whole new level of Civ insanity:

Thats some pretty risky terrain. Would you believe the first one you've offended is an atheist. What do you mean "the middle-ground between switching religions" and where are my bonuses?!?!?!?

the only way it could work is if you offended everyone equally.

[Buster13]

Originally posted by gsmoove23


Thats some pretty risky terrain. Would you believe the first one you've offended is an atheist. What do you mean "the middle-ground between switching religions" and where are my bonuses?!?!?!?

the only way it could work is if you offended everyone equally.

Alright, alright...

Agnosticism will be the new middle ground.

Atheism will be Gold Bonus due to not having to tithe religious institutions, Corruption reduction due to lack of excess rules, but since support for spirituality in public discourse is lacking, is particularly susceptible to propoganda from Christianity, Islam, and other Big Institution religions.

A new one : Fundamentalism. 1 free military unit per city, hates communism, penalty to corruption since legal statutes come from vague religious stories.

Baptist: Same as Christianity except entertainers have double effect since they sing in church.

I'm going to offend everyone.....

[sabrewolf]

if we're going to be politicaly incorrect, i'll add my ideas too.. it's just humour, don't take it serious

catholicism: first 5 gold in each city goes to the capital (e.g. rome). advantage: helps converting people of smaller religions (like indios, african tribes)

protestantism: makes people further away from the capital happier. costs less

sectism: converts people slowly, production loss, costs a lot, but converted people survive apocalyptical scenarios (e.g. nuclear wars, alien invasion, etc.)

judaism: 25% more trade, conversion to other religions nearly impossible. disadvantage: every several hundred years people of this religion get ethnicly cleansed

[sabrewolf]

and so on...

but serious: if there were religions in civ3, there should also be a percentage of faith.

100% means no science, no contacts to other religions, but also no unhappiness
[...]
0% means max. progress, but no temples, cathedrals and other religious happiness-productions

[Heresson]

My God/Allah

I know You know that, but Allah = God.
Calling Muslims the worshippers of Allah is offending.
They do not worship a God named Allah - they worship God.

Hrm, the most widely-read book of all time? I think that counts for something. And yes, that includes Christians too, but as I've said countless times in this thread, Christ was a Jew, too.

I know - but it's not that easy.
It's like saying that Americans are English and thus,
talking about American achievements British.

[gsmoove23]

Atheism - Corruption increase because of lack of rules
Who says its wrong to skim a little off the top.