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[vondrack]

Re: Re: Re: Bugs/Problems.....

Originally posted by E_T
From the Cixilopedia: On the trade & trade routes page
Water routes: In order to use a water route, YOUR civilization must be able to SAFELY trasverse EVERY SQUARE of the route and this depends upon having Mapmaking, Navigation and/or Magnatism.
I wonder why Astronomy isn't listed, anyways, there is a viable water route, there wouldn't be if you couldn't use the route planner (i.e. goto)!

No savegame attached, but anyway...

I believe that the pedia is not 100% precise defining what "safely traversing" means. AFAIK, it means that every square of the trade-route must be safe for your vessels, even if they FINISH their turn there.

[Ethelred]

Where is the SAVE?

It doesn't really matter about the save. You DON'T have a viable path. You said there is a SEA tile in the way. EVERY tile along at least one path must be coastal.

Maybe the civolopedia has it wrong but the fact is you have sea tiles in the way. Even one is enough to block trade. YOU can go cover the sea tiles because you can move three but the path still crosses sea tile. The goto algorithym is not the arbiter of what counts as a viable path. Again all it takes IS ONE SEA TILE to stop trade.

You have not found a bug in the game. Just a bug in your understanding of how trade works. Without looking it up it could be due to the Civalopedia but its still not a game bug.

Naw its not the Civalopedia, its your interpretation. It says EVERY square and you don't have that. It would be more precise if it said STOP on every square but sea tile are still not safe to travel on. You could get blocked for instance and be stuck so the sea tiles are a risk even if you have a chance of crossing them.

If you look at the techs themselves you will see that Navigation says

New Ability Harbors can be connected by ocean squares.

Astronomy says

New Ability Harbors can be connected by sea squares

Well you don't have Astronomy so you CAN NOT be connected by sea tiles.

[E_T]

Save file

Opps, forgot the file. Here it is.....

[vmxa1]

Remember you can send a galley across the sea using the goto and it may even make it. It may not, it has percentage of a change to survive in a sea tile at the nd of the turn. That is why you read about players sending galley after galley out to try to get across until one lucks out and makes it. That does not mean you can have trade across those tiles. If one does not care for the game, that fine. When one complains about it not working and does not uderstand the rules, that is a shame.

[astrologix]

Did anyone notice this bug ?

I load a save, say Elizabeth, 2150 BC,
then I make Zoom out with the 'Z' key.
Immediately after this, I load an older save of the same game, say Elizabeth, 3050 BC.

I was astonished to see some parts of the unknown world !

This effect disappears as soon as you move your mouse, but it's very annoying !

Could you reproduce this bug with your own saves ?

You can see it on this screenshot :

[vmxa1]

I have seen "ghost" overlays. The times that have been a problem is when it leaves me where I can not see what my move is as I can not see the unit I wanted to move.

[Panag]

Originally posted by astrologix
Did anyone notice this bug ?

I load a save, say Elizabeth, 2150 BC,
then I make Zoom out with the 'Z' key.
Immediately after this, I load an older save of the same game, say Elizabeth, 3050 BC.

I was astonished to see some parts of the unknown world !

This effect disappears as soon as you move your mouse, but it's very annoying !

Could you reproduce this bug with your own saves ?

You can see it on this screenshot :

hi ,

do you have a save

post it here and send a copy to Firaxis

have a nice day

[Ribannah]

This could just be slow graphics, instead of a bug.

[vmxa1]

Not in my case. I have a radon 8500 on one box and Gforce 3 on the other and they 1.6G or higher. I can not image a they are too slow.

[astrologix]

Yes, Panag. Here are the saves.
I have a Pentium III 800 MHz, 256 MB and an ATI graphic card 32MB. My comp is OK !

This bug allows cheating in the first stages of a game. FIRAXIS : It must be fixed !

[astrologix]

And here is the second save :

[Ribannah]

I just tested it and you are right, I get the same effect.
Then I tested it with saves of one of my own games (AU 105) and I get the same again. So it is indeed another bug.

[astrologix]

Anyone could say to me the best FIRAXIS's e-mail adress where I could send those saves ?

Thanks

[astrologix]

Originally posted by Ribannah
I just tested it and you are right, I get the same effect.
Then I tested it with saves of one of my own games (AU 105) and I get the same again. So it is indeed another bug.

Thank you, Ribannah

[Catt]

Originally posted by astrologix
Anyone could say to me the best FIRAXIS's e-mail adress where I could send those saves ?

Thanks

If you go to www.firaxis.com, select "Contact" and then "Game Feedback" you'll have an option to send a bug report.

BUT - read the bug report instructions -- they DO NOT WANT SAVED GAMES sent to them -- just describe the problem and provide the information they request in the bug report. They will get back to you if they want a saved game - I've used the bug report before and the QA team seems to deal with reports seriously and fairly promptly.

Catt