Ban HG in Duels and/or MP games

[Alexander's Horse]

No it doesn't. All good in theory though.

[Ming]

It works well in practice for me...

[Alexander's Horse]

You don't play 1x.

[Ming]

I used to... I've probably have played more 1x1x games than you have... and it just got boring... too slow

Just because I prefer 2x production now doesn't mean I don't know how 1x works

[Alexander's Horse]

your comments suggest you forgot how 1x works.

Anyway, your theory is going to get a workout soon - I know what you mean and I agree it can work.

[Ming]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
your comments suggest you forgot how 1x works.

Anyway, your theory is going to get a workout soon - I know what you mean and I agree it can work.

Nahhh... my comments prove I remember 1x well

And give it a try. Especially if you get off to a crummy start. You can get to iron works/Legions quick(something to consider when you get warrior code and it drives you off the monarchy path) ... and vet legions can be VERY effective early in the game. Marching them in pairs to avoid bribes (unless you don't play unit bribes) you can drive an opponent absolutely crazy. Keep them on rough terrain, and they are almost impossible to take out early. They can totally destroy a persons civ early. March out a few diplos with them, and you can catch up in techs really quickly

[Alexander's Horse]

Pardon me if I bridle at the teacher/student tone but we have tried it.

Although not with legions, crusaders more the weapon of choice

Back on-topic, do I assume from this thread that War just missed out on HG a few times recently?

[Ming]

Nahhhhh... he never builds it early, so he doesn't want anybody else to do it either

And on the other thing... While vet crusaders can get on a roll... by then, vet pikeman are in place, and few well placed vet cats can take care of it as well. Early legions against phalanxes and warriors is killer. Even multiple horses attacking them on bad terrain isn't going to kill them.

[War4ever]

gr...thats not why i want the cost raised gr.....

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by Ming
Nahhhhh... he never builds it early, so he doesn't want anybody else to do it either

Ah

And on the other thing... While vet crusaders can get on a roll... by then, vet pikeman are in place, and few well placed vet cats can take care of it as well. Early legions against phalanxes and warriors is killer. Even multiple horses attacking them on bad terrain isn't going to kill them.

I can't remember the last time I saw someone build a legion. We usually move through the tech tree so rapidly that you really need modern units to take someone out once you're in AD.

[Ming]

Im talking about attacking around 3000 BC to 2000 BC... screw waiting till AD.

[Hydey]

We tend to use larger maps so often we are not close enough to wage war that early in the game.

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by Ming
Im talking about attacking around 3000 BC to 2000 BC... screw waiting till AD.

You can't do what you are talking about at that time - you have no cities and no troops.

[DrSpike]

No cities by 3000BC = toast
No cities by 2000BC = charred remains of what was formerly a piece of toast.

[Ming]

After 3000 BC you should have some core cities in place and start your planning... By 2000 BC you should be able to start an offensive... and people won't be anywhere near ready for it if they are thinking like you AH And you still have over a 1000 years before anybody can really stop you...