Ban HG in Duels and/or MP games

[War4ever]

thanks ming, i don't know if your support will be enough to make the change, but i think it will make our games better...and in reality that is why we extended oracle...while were on it, lets bring GW back too....this way there are less changes...and lets just note for the record that GW is banned in duels with no city bribe?

does that all make sense?

i really feel strongly that 200 shield wonders unbalance the game, and we all know how rough it is when someone gets the pyramids/hg combo, or the gw/pyramids combo or *shudders* the three of them together......

this may allow players a better shot at capturing one of these wonders....and with GW back in, it might allow a player who is losing to put together an offence and perhaps go cruising around the neighborhood especially if he feels he can leave minimal def at home

[DrSpike]

As I said I support your cause, but why just HG and pyramids? Many wonders are too powerful.

[War4ever]

spike the biggest reason for hg and pyramids, is due to the time frame in which you can build them and their cost.... for the price of mikes i can have hg and pyramids which is a way better early game combo and by the time i need to have some sort of happiness fixer upper, my cities have the infastructure/trade routes already.

IMO there isn't any other wonders in the game on the worlds we play on that give such a great bonus at such a little cost.....

[Ming]

Some might argue the Light House is too powerful, but not on the maps we play on

We should probably consider LOWERING the number of shields for Marco's... because nobody builds it now

[Flatlander Fox]

Originally posted by Ming
Some might argue the Light House is too powerful, but not on the maps we play on

We should probably consider LOWERING the number of shields for Marco's... because nobody builds it now

Yeah, Marco's is pretty much useless. Even lowering it might not help.

But imagine being able to choose between Hoover Dam, Shake's theater, and HG.

It would be nifty.

[War4ever]

i dn't really want to go totally altering the game, i just think things should cost a bit more......the only way to bring in other wonders IMO is to play a game that CONTINUES...

but 300 shield HG and Pyramids and bringing GW back are very easy to do....oh ...and someone make barracks produce vet boats

[Ming]

Something to discuss

[War4ever]

well we didnt' have any discussion in our game tonite...bunch of bums

[Ming]

During a game is not the best time for serious discussion. Game chats are reserved for the more important things.... Like whining

[War4ever]

Originally posted by Ming
During a game is not the best time for serious discussion. Game chats are reserved for the more important things.... Like whining

Hydey was doing his best to be you last night....poor guy started beside me

[Ming]

I almost lost it when he posted...

THISBLOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWS
(or however he spelled it)

It was a classic

[War4ever]

i believe it was "that blows" lol...and i quickly corrected his word usage.....

yeah, poor lad, i did lose alot of units later on swatting him, mainly b/c i wasn't paying attention and was wandering around blindly ....had i gone after construction i would have used insta forts and just swatted him around..

instead i thought i would take the long way to invention by researching chivalry, monotheism, etc.... i was too engrossed in other things , plus the fun wore off once i realized rah only had the ai to deal with and hydey was out of the running.....

if we had had a fourth i would have been more focused...and i know hydey wanted to stop too

[Ming]

Rah just wanted to continue so he could get a little more celebrating in, and invention

Yes... and once Barano left...

[War4ever]

three is like a duel with an ai and a battered civ....i new rah would be celebrating, i deliberately didn't build HG and decided i would have more fun using vet pults and laying devastation...

it was fun, if you get them early, vet pults are lethal matched up with pikemen, there really is nothing people can do hahha...

[Ming]

You don't even need to get them "early" for them to be effective. As long as you can defend them on the field, they continue to kick butt.
The best thing to do to defend against them is to just get them yourself. Because then you can destroy them when they move next to your cities