The Infotrader/Infiltrator Network - Diplomacy plug-in (III)

[Hercules]

I can go with that.

But still be mindful of Spartan Plan Data ability.

Anyway, so we get on the path towards Fusion and feed them same pre reqs but they choose Orb. Space.

Ok it is doable.

Just one thing. Gaians have made a sizable jump in the charts. And Gaians (under BinT and Chaos and using ICS) is a formidable outfit. Oh and especially with clean ability.

[Mart]

I also thought of another possibility. After getting PSA we will be able to choose:
1) Fusion
2) Orbital Spaceflight
How about combining research with Gaians? They do one of these techs and we do the other? We might arrange it, like providing Gaians with what they need to choose one of them. With the rate around 10 turns/tech we might have both Fusion and Orbital before like 2200.

[Hercules]

Promise to send AAA unit shortly or if they ask for it sooner, but we would ask, for the same reason as we are exchanging units now that they do not pass tech knowledge to any other faction.

Is Cent Medit any use to us btw except for IODs?.

Gaians are 2 years from tech discovery so will not want new tech until after discovery.

Let's remember another point. AMA is on the road to Fusion. Early acquisition of Fusion can help us catch up with Spartans and they longer other factions don't have it the better for us ,which is also why having the HSA is important to us.

[Mart]

I think you bring, Forester, many good points as to why give AAA to Gaians now. Any base with AAA plasma and air complex, and we know Yang is building them, have around 12 on defense against air units. So any base taken by Gaians with air complex intact would be good for having AAA.

If we are going to be in a strong political agreement with Gaians, their couple of more AAA units against Spartan air forces might be good. After all, they will more compete for Hive bases there, since they are in vicinity more than us.

We might directly inquire Gaians, if they would be willing in the future return the favor, since we would be giving 2 abilities and receiving 1. Plus future better relations, what in long run may count significantly more. Imagine Spartans attack Gaians soon, Gaians might feel we did not help them enough sooner. We are attacked by Spartans, then Gaians would be more willing to help, if they received something from us before (this AAA now). I do not consider Gaians to be treacherous very soon towards us. Spartan military threatens us both. And there lurk Morganities out there, with their potential, they are still extremely powerful.

Any more thoughts?

[Kataphraktoi]

perhaps im overestimating S chances here,but id rather give AAA for nothing and risk them beating us anyway in the endgame then watching them crumble and die and we lose then anyhow.

ill back whatever descision yall make here. just my $.02

getting the centauri tech would be a good idea though. perhaps they might actually give that to us free if we do free stuff now? or am i being to trusting,probably...

its simple. you do good things and good things happan to you. it took alot of pounding but i finnaly learned my lesson

another zillion xenocookies if you can get that quote

edit; empath is 2\2\2 isnt it?

[ForesterSOF]

Remember the saying that a good ofence is having a good defence.

The safer they feel the more they will be willing to do on there own.

Plus it is freind helping freind.

Plus Plus that way they are safer from Spartans.

Plus Plus Plus it gives us a card for the future in terms of Gaian relations.

end result: overruled and not sending AAA.

[GeoModder]

AFAIK, Gaians will attack the Hive regardless. Just in case this isn't clear to you, AAA (anti-air) is good for defense, but hardly useful for ground/airdrop assaults. Tactical fighters are used for that and the Gaians have that ability already.

[ForesterSOF]

That way they will be more able to take a Yang Base instead of the Spartans taking it.

Also a 3 way asualt will be more taxing on Yang resources then a 2 way squeeze.

[GeoModder]

You want to give AAA+drop ability to the Gaians with no second ability in return?

[ForesterSOF]

I also say make it a AAA

[GeoModder]

Let's wait with the AAA ability. Heck, if really necessary we can always gift the tech in case things look dire for them. Soon they have a new Centauri tech no-one else has so if we feel we need that tech we can trade.

[Kataphraktoi]

we could give it to them no charge, as they are the weakest human faction it apears(?) to help ensure they survive S but i would wait to see what yall think

[Mart]

I know, but we would transfer to them 2 abilities for their 1. Gaians have nothing for exchange at the moment. So would go 1 ability for 1 ability. They probably will not have very hard feelings about it. We can always transfer AAA in the future. Maybe even trade AMA.

Unless you think giving AAA in advance would aid their effort in fighting Yang. He does not have tacticals so far, but after being attacked that may changed. Any oppinions?

[ForesterSOF]

Orig we talked about AAA but final msg talks only about a Drop Garrison.

[Kataphraktoi]

aye on the drop only unit,unless they give us more

have simply been monitering your exchanges in light of your experiances with this btw