A good WWII scenario, finally!

[Rasbelin]

Originally posted by MacTBone
Just want to remind everyone that each civ can have as many UUs as you want them to have.

...and that's the good part with the UU editing.

That way Germany can have several Panzers and Tigers, Russia can have their big ass tanks

Germany:
Tiger II
Maus

France:
Renault ... (I'll try to find the whole name)

UK:
Sherman
Achilles

Soviet union:
BT-7 ( 80 kmph max speed )
T-34

To be added later: Italy and USA.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

UUs. There shouldnt be too many or else balancing will be hard

Germany: Panzer (encompasses Tiger, Mark, Panther etc etc)
United Kingdom: Dominion Infantry (Comprised of Aussies, NZ, the toughest infantry in the world after the Americans, Finns, and Ivan )
United States of America: B-17 bomber (only country in the world with good heavy bombers)
France: Partisans (vive la Resistance!)
Soviet Union: T-34 (about equal with Panzer)
Italy: Underwater Chariots (a torpedo with 2 frogmen on bord who drive it underwater and steer it towards a ship (these Italians were so pathetic inthe 20th Century that they lost to an Abyssinian Army whose most sophisticated weapong was the spear. This is the only example in history where a modern army has lost to a primitive one)
Turks: None
Norway: None
Finland: Alpine Troops (same as in civ2 but with a higher attack)
Belgium: None
The Netherlands: Flood Troops (Flood 3/4 of the country to protect the other 1/4) No actually I don't know
Yugoslavia: None
Sweden: None
Spain:None
Portugal: None
Switzerland: Citizen Army (strong on defense)

[Bereta_Eder]

Lawrence ,

what about Greece?
Greece defeated the Italians in WW2 and after the Soviet Union had one of the biggest sacrifices in the fight for democracy. I think it deserves a mention.

Or is it with the Allies all together?

About UU I'd say either greek infantry OR greek submarines. They had a record breaking number of sinking italian subs.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

what about Greece?

I think it will be with the United Kingdom along with Egypt, Iraq, Iran, Arabia, India.

[Alexander I]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
Soviet Union: T-34 (about equal with Panzer)

Come on! This is the Soviet Union we're talking about!

[Lawrence of Arabia]

Come on! This is the Soviet Union we're talking about!

Your right

The T-34 has a reduced range since its crew is always piss drunk with the vodka. They can't aim straight any more

[mactbone]

Actually, it would be more powerful. Soviet tanks were the strongest and most armored tanks, the problem was cranking the puppies out, poor tactics, and hardly any lower level control of forces. Way I see it, German tanks on average should get movement bonuses to simulate blitzkrieg, American tanks should be less expensive, French tanks should have higher defense but lower movement (one man tanks are not effective), and Soviet tanks should be more expensive but have higher attack values. My two cents.

[Rasbelin]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia
UUs. There shouldnt be too many or else balancing will be hard

Germany: Panzer (encompasses Tiger, Mark, Panther etc etc)

That's not a good solution.
The German should have one tank
as UU; the Tiger I or Tiger II (Königtiger).

Finland: Alpine Troops (same as in civ2 but with a higher attack)

Finland didn't have any alpine troops;
the UU should be Finnish infantry or
Bristol Blenheim IV.

[Rasbelin]

Originally posted by Alexander01

Come on! This is the Soviet Union we're talking about!

The T-34 was a good tank, if you compare to
many US tanks in WWII. Anyway, the T-34 deserves
its UU status in that scenario.

[Rasbelin]

Originally posted by MacTBone
Actually, it would be more powerful. Soviet tanks were the strongest and most armored tanks, the problem was cranking the puppies out, poor tactics, and hardly any lower level control of forces.

You have a clue in that. The Soviet union had
quite large variety of tanks; BT-7 to KV-I.
They had tanks for almost everything, but the
German panzerwagens were better in many
ways. The largest and strongest tanks were German,
not Russian. Tiger I, Tiger II, Maus,...

[Dauphin]

I think the French should have "Maginot Line troops" as its UU. Its traits being:

High production cost
High maintenance cost (approx 80% of defence budget)
Reduced manouvrebility (fixed positions ideally)
Low attack value (maybe just the ability to bombard)

However, it would have an inordinately high defence value, provided it was attacked from the east and not ambushed from the west.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

That's not a good solution.
The German should have one tank
as UU;.

The Panzer is one tank. I just said that it encompasses all those other tanks, so it should represent their strengths.

[Rasbelin]

Originally posted by Lawrence of Arabia

The Panzer is one tank. I just said that it encompasses all those other tanks, so it should represent their strengths.

I know that you ment that, but I think it's
better to have one specific tank, and not to
combine all to a single "Panzer".
It's ridiculous: PzIA and Maus in a single package.
It almost makes me laugh.

[Rasbelin]

Originally posted by Big Crunch
I think the French should have "Maginot Line troops" as its UU.

But the French could move them arround
(unless movement points are set to zero),
and that would spoil the whole idea.

[Lawrence of Arabia]

I think the French should have "Maginot Line troops" as its UU.

Partisans are better. The Maginot Line troops were old geezers who werent fit for front line duty