A good WWII scenario, finally!

[Sava]

Sorry, but I think it's retarded to included every single little country. In the whole scope of the war, it boils down to Allies and Soviets vs Axis. I'm not saying countries like Denmark, Belgium, or Sweden didn't play important roles, but for the sake of gameplay, why clog up the game with extra AI's that for the most part won't have the power to be effective?

Sure, Poland did its part, but they got blitzkrieged. So they are basically useless as a controlable Civ in a WWII scenario. It would be really dumb if you could play as the Poles and attack the Germans before the blitzkrieg.

I'm glad that Firaxis and/or experienced modmakers will be making these scenarios and not the general Apolyton public. Gameplay must be the top priority in such a scenario. These should be the only playable civs.

US
Britain
Germany
Italy
Japan
Soviet Union

And for gameplay sake I would combine US and Britain, and Germany and Italy. I know that Britain fought long before the US got involved after Pearl Harbor, but it would be stupid to be playing as Britain and waiting for some bug-ridden AI to attack the Nazis.

[pithorr]

It is a game, man!
If you're smart you could save Poland or France to be blietzkrieged. You know, to change the fate...
Unfortunately, you present typicall Anglo-Saxon view on history...

[Dauphin]

Re: Re: Re: Units in Allied Cities and squares

Originally posted by KrazyHorse


"Blitzkrieg" can refer to all of Hitler's major surprise engagements (Poland, France, Russia, etc.), though the "Blitz" is usually reserved for the bombing raids on London.

Thats what I said, wasn't it?

[Col Bigspear]

i think it would be important to have most of the 'Minor' countries in the War for Replayability, What if Poland gave Germany Danzig?, gave Germany 'Right of passage' and helped with the War against Russia.
What if the Polish held on long enough for the French to launch an Offensive while German troops are held up in Poland

Stop thinking Civ2 and start thinking Civ3, new diplomacy, start in 1938, What if there was no German-Russian pact, What if What if...... thats what its all about, I know scenarios are for real Historic events but this is a game about Alt History not Actual History, What if Germany and Britain joined forces, the largest Navy with the Best equipped Army?

[KrazyHorse]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Units in Allied Cities and squares

Originally posted by Big Crunch


Thats what I said, wasn't it?

Sort of...I just wanted to point out that referring to the blitz on France is an acceptable mode of speech.

[pithorr]

Originally posted by Col Bigspear
i think it would be important to have most of the 'Minor' countries in the War for Replayability, What if Poland gave Germany Danzig?, gave Germany 'Right of passage' and helped with the War against Russia.
What if the Polish held on long enough for the French to launch an Offensive while German troops are held up in Poland

Stop thinking Civ2 and start thinking Civ3, new diplomacy, start in 1938, What if there was no German-Russian pact, What if What if...... thats what its all about, I know scenarios are for real Historic events but this is a game about Alt History not Actual History, What if Germany and Britain joined forces, the largest Navy with the Best equipped Army?

Yes, man it is what I wanted to write!!!
I give you my 1/8 of Polish soul and you are 3/8 Pole now!

[Dauphin]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Units in Allied Cities and squares

Originally posted by KrazyHorse


Sort of...I just wanted to point out that referring to the blitz on France is an acceptable mode of speech.

Well, saying I blitzed my room is an acceptable phrase, meaning I tidied it in an inordinately short amount of time.

I would summise that the without explicit clarification the reference to London is implicit

[Dauphin]

Stop thinking Civ2 and start thinking Civ3, new diplomacy, start in 1938, What if there was no German-Russian pact, What if What if...... thats what its all about, I know scenarios are for real Historic events but this is a game about Alt History not Actual History, What if Germany and Britain joined forces, the largest Navy with the Best equipped Army

I often thought about that, but with respect to WW1. For centuries Germanic nations and England were opposed against the French. Then it al changed... what if it hadn't.

I think our perceiving the Germans as a greater threat than France shows how the French power and declined in the 19th Century, relatively speaking.

[pithorr]

Excellent, but it is not a WWII scenario now...

[Faboba]

From the looks of it we'll have more than our fair share of WW2 scenarios to choose from

How about unique units? Will you be giving patton and monty their own units to be included in armies? Will you be letting the russian build superfast T......(52?)s? I'm glad the default graphic for armour seems to be shermans, you won't have to change much for allied tanks.

[Rasbelin]

Originally posted by Faboba

How about unique units?

Depends on which countires are in the scenario.
If May 1940...

Soviet union: T-34
Finland: Finnish infantry
German Reich: Junkers 75B or Messerschmitt 262 (my favourite)
Italy: Bersigleri partisans
Yugoslavia: Yugoslavian infantry
Greece: Greek infantry
France: Renault ...
UK: Supermarine Spitfire
USA: North American P-51 B-15 Mustang

[Rasbelin]

Originally posted by pithorr
Excellent, but it is not a WWII scenario now...

Well, let's make a Great War scenario too.
I'll start a new thread on that.

[Dauphin]

How about unique units?

France: Renault ...

Createur d'automobiles.



At least say you are refering to a Renault tank.

[mactbone]

Just want to remind everyone that each civ can have as many UUs as you want them to have. That way Germany can have several Panzers and Tigers, Russia can have their big ass tanks and the Americans could have Bazookas along with Shermans. Maybe you can even set up special strengths or weaknesses, like bazookas can do more damage to a tank, akin to the pikemen bonus against horses. Food for thought.

[Rasbelin]

Originally posted by Big Crunch

At least say you are refering to a Renault tank.

Yeap. Can't remember the name of that "little" tank.