Rise of the Third Riech

[Patine]

@Patine: Are the units that bad?

No, my eyes, not your artistry, are at fault?

[Patine]

Come to think of it, two aircraft I might like to include, which are speculative as far as being involved in WW2, at least, are, if the war drags on longer than it historically did and the Germans make better tactical and impunitive use of Me-262's, are the M50 (for the British) and the X-1 (for the Americans), introduced in such a case earlier than they actually were to level the playing field in the air. If anyone's up to making them, or has any ideas on this thought, please let me know. Thanks!

[fairline]

There's no British plane I've ever heard of called an M50, and the X-1 was a test aircraft. If you want advanced / 'speculative' fighters then you want an the P-59 Airacomet for the US (their first jet fighter) and a Meteor for the British (the only Allied jet aircraft to take part in the War).

[Patine]

The X-1 is just a test plane, eh? I think the M50 might be too (and maybe an unsuccesful one, hence you've never heard of it). I was watching a documentary on the history of the jet engine in warfare, and the two I mentioned were brought up, but someone in the house changed the channel (I shouldn't base posts on half-watched documentaries, I know). I think, though, a P-59 and a Meteor would do just nicely. I offer humble thanks in advance if you or anyone else can make these jets for me!

[kobayashi]

Originally posted by Patine
It will thus feature the following civ's:
-1-USSR
-2-Italy
-3-Germany (including Finland, Hungary, Romania, and Bulgaria)
-4-Spain
-5-USA (including Liberia and Latin American nations)
-6-British Empire (including Norway, the Low Countries, Yugoslavia, and Greece, as well as the Free French)
-7)France
-Barbarians-Tito's partisans and initially Turkey.
-Nations covered by impassable terrain-Portugal, Andorra, Switzerland, Ireland, Sweden, Saudi Arabia, Persia, and Afghanistan.
Same idea applies for incorporating Turkey into the British player.

What exactly is impassable terrain units? I thought you could only have impassable terrain when there were no aircraft?

[curtsibling]

ToT (which I assume this scenario is for) can have impassible flags
added to terrain and a flag that covers what units are affected by it.

[Arthedain]

Btw Patine, I'm glad you choosed to have the scenario start earlier than 1940, it really makes the scenario title work

[curtsibling]

It would be great to start with Germany being underpowered,
with the 100,000 man army, then have a builidng/development game,
where you create the familiar WW2 European superpower.

[Patine]

Okay, here's the set of players I now have in mind:
1-USSR
2-Pro-German States (Italy, Finland, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, and, initially, Nationalist Spain)
3-Germany (Player civilization)
4-'Contested' Powers (Poland, Baltic States, Albania, Abyssinia, Norway, Denmark, and Republican Spain)
5-USA (including Liberia and Latin American Allies)
6-British Empire (including Belgium, the Netherlands, Greece, Yugoslavia, Iceland, and the Free French, Polish, Norweigans, and Danish)
7-France
Barbarians-Demilitarized States (the Rhineland, Danzig, Austria, and Czechoslakia) and Tito's Partisans
Neutral Terrain Covered-Portugal, Switzerland, Ireland, Sweden, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Persia, and Afghanistan
This is about how it currently stands. Does anyone have any thoughts, advice, or criticism?

[Eivind IV]

I don't get it...you have Poland, Norway etc in the 'contested' civ, but then again in the British Empire civ? Other than that, things seem to make sense.

When have you decided to start btw?

[curtsibling]

I would make Norway and Poland as part of the pro-Brit group.

[JCP]

Originally posted by Eivind IV


Hey! Norways's not beaten yet! Allied forces are still fighting as best they can in Northern Norway

It's true : the iron road from Sweden was broken at Narvik and Namsos... untill the battle of France.
(my father was in french alpine troops fighting in Norway)

[Patine]

@Eivind IV: Where you may have misunderstood is Poland, Norway, and Denmark as civ's previous to conquest are 'contested,' but FREE Polish, Norweigans, and Danish (notice those nationalities follow Free French and are listed as adjectives, not country nouns) are under the British. That's what I meant.
@Curt: However, Curt, you may have a point. I'll have to carefully consider actual distribution in the end.

[curtsibling]

The meagre amount of civs we have to juggle can be restrictive...

[Eivind IV]

Originally posted by Patine
@Eivind IV: Where you may have misunderstood is Poland, Norway, and Denmark as civ's previous to conquest are 'contested,' but FREE Polish, Norweigans, and Danish (notice those nationalities follow Free French and are listed as adjectives, not country nouns) are under the British. That's what I meant.
@Curt: However, Curt, you may have a point. I'll have to carefully consider actual distribution in the end.

Ok, I get it. As much as having seperate Norwegian, Danish, Polish etc troops would add flavour and honour their efforts, it might be good enough with a single free french infantry though, to represent all the occupied free troops. Just a thought to save some space.

You didn't answer my second questiom though ; What year have you decided to start in?

Originally posted by JCP
It's true : the iron road from Sweden was broken at Narvik and Namsos... untill the battle of France.
(my father was in french alpine troops fighting in Norway)

My grand father fought at Narvik as well

(I made a scenario in honour of all those who fought in that campaign. You should check it out: http://www.evo-games.net/Home/viewtopic.php?t=65 )