Red Front for ToT

[CapTVK]

As for Nemo's final reason for retirement. I believe he was working on a scenario based on the "Battle for Britain" but ultimately he got frustrated because the Civ2 engine simply didn't allow him to do what he wanted to do. Despite various tries and workarounds it just didn't work in the way he wanted.

So in the end he retired from Civ2. That's his choice and it should be respected. His legacy remains...

[curtsibling]

Originally posted by Heresson
traitor

He done his CIV2 tour of duty - Have some respect for the man...

Youth of today!

Pah!

...

[rmsharpe]

Indeed. Nemo did wonders for us, there is no need to trash his name since he has left.

Nemo was a scenario pioneer.

[Eivind IV]

To be honest I've never played Red Front *scared of the mob*...

Looking forward to the update though

EDIT: This was an obvious joke.

[fairline]

Originally posted by rmsharpe

http://pub120.ezboard.com/biaapaopenforumbbs.showLocalUserPublicProfile?login=nemo

I was searching for WWII stuff about Silesia, and I came across this:

"I have a great deal of respect for the USSR's War effort and have studied it in depth (I actually designed a Computer Game Scenario on the subject called Red Front)" -- Posted September 30th, 2002.

But I went to his profile and he is still an active user there, making posts as recently as today.

Top sleuthing there RM. It's an 'Axis and Allies' players forum and it would appear to be the Nemo posting there regularly. At the risk of coming over as a rather scary stalker, I joined up with the intention of PM-ing him about the Delux Redux; unfortunately he has disabled private mesaging I think, and it would be uncouth of me to post there publically.

CapTVK: As Agricola says, it would be great if you could contact Nemo about this project to seek his approval. It might help to entice him here so that he can look at the standard of recent work by Curt, Harry and Catfish in order that he could see this is a serious proposition.

[fairline]

Originally posted by CapTVK
Well, I got his permission to use his (and Alex's) graphics for Freeciv 2.0. I'm sure he won't mind that his original scenario get's an update as long as the original author(s) are mentioned.

But I will try and contact him again to get his official seal of approval.

Ah, I see you are already on the case. Thanks

[curtsibling]

The Captain must still get a lot of mail about his Civ work!

Fame has a price!

But I hope he turns up and sees that we are all forging ahead on the path he pioneered!

[AGRICOLA]

@Heresson

Sorry to have to disagree with you again

Originally posted by Heresson

My points are based on Your claims why he's resigned, not his.

Just to set the facts straight, when I said that

Originally posted by AGRICOLA
If he felt that the Civ 2 engine could not be made to do what he wanted to accomplish, he chose to retire rather than lower his standards.

it definitely was not my claim, it was based on my reading of

Originally posted by Kaptain Ken on Colwyn's Red Front 1.5 thread
As a playtester for both RF1.4 and BOB Blitz I can say that finishing The Battle of Britain would require fixing the AI. I believe that being unable to overcome the AI like he did in Red Front was what drove Nemo to give up scenario designing for Civ II. I have not communicated with Nemo since Alex came to visit America a couple of years ago, but believe he would not mind haveing Red Front updated/modified so long as credit is given for his original design work. I am playing 1.5 now and generally like what I see, but only to August of '41 so far.

My interpretation of Kaptain Ken's post seems to have been reasonably accurate in view of the very recent post by CapTVK on this thread.

Originally posted by CapTVK
As for Nemo's final reason for retirement. I believe he was working on a scenario based on the "Battle for Britain" but ultimately he got frustrated because the Civ2 engine simply didn't allow him to do what he wanted to do. Despite various tries and workarounds it just didn't work in the way he wanted.

So in the end he retired from Civ2. That's his choice and it should be respected. His legacy remains...

OK?

[CapTVK]

Well, i've mailed him. Let's see what happens.

[Captain Nemo]

T.J.T van Kooten asked me to pop in on this thread and give an OK to proceed with the conversion. You have my blessing on making any modifications and changes you see fit and using my original units/ideas/files etc.

Reading the thread I can see much discussion as to why I retired from Civ2 scenario design... simple reason: burn-out. After spending almost every free hour over 3 years designing Red Front, Second Front and Blitz I was ready for doing something else. The fact that Blitz did not work well was also a bit discouraging, especially after spending so much time on it. It is a completely finished scenario and just doesn't work well.

I am really happy to see that my scenario is still alive and well. That you very much for carrying the banner forward!

[AGRICOLA]

Thank you Captain Nemo.

Thank you CapTVK.

[Heresson]

My point is that no matter how great Nemo was, we should criticise Him for leaving civ2.
If we'll be annoying enough, perhaps He'll come back

What was the exact thing that drove him mad in this Britain scenario?
Let us think together, perhaps we'll find a sollution?

Anyway, rebelling against reality is not noble itself when nothing comes out of it.
In this case, Nemo's revolt against the reality brought no positive results to us, and therefore, I feel free to criticise his decision, which of course doesn't mean I do not respect Him as a scn creator. The other way round!
I wouldn't complain at His retirement if I didn't like His scenarios.

[Harry Tuttle]

Thanks Nemo!

[Eivind IV]

Thanks, nemo!
Are you aware that you've visited us in the very rennaisance of civ2? Please come back!

[Boco]

Thanks for the years of fun you've given us, and enjoy the hobbies that you've moved on to.