Fallout 3

[UnOrthOdOx]

Well, after I found it for $20, I restarted. (My rental saves were more trying to see everything as fast as possible, not exploring)

I must admit to being quite impressed. I've completely ignored the primary quest now for more than a week, and am nowhere near even coming close to needing to persue it. Mostly finished the survival guide quests while hitting up any easy to reach markers for fast travel later along that path. But, I've gotten sidetracked a fair few times en route as well. Having stumbled on miscellaneous towns in the process, and doing what seemed at the time to be quick quests in between.

I will say, finding certain people does tend to make this game MUCH easier. Now that stimpacks are no longer a rare commodity, I have caps to spare, and rads are not even an issue. Not sure that's a totally good thing.

One minor complaint I have is that my follower sure don't know how to be sneaky. Up to getting him, my plan was to sneak and get the criticals. Now he seems to barge in whenever a red dot appears. Had to tell him to stay behind a few times, even, when I needed to pickpocket.

Do followers ever get overburdened?

Been playing mostly good (there have been a few "innocents" snuffed out here or there) but looking forward to playing through again evil. As for being "good", however, it is mildly annoying when you can kill an "evil" person, and get a karma boost, but then get a karma penalty for stealing his stuff after he's dead. wtf? He don't need it anymore.

[Alinestra Covelia]

Do followers ever get overburdened?

Yes, past a certain point if you try to load them up with more gear, it'll say they've reached their carrying capacity.

[ZEE]

The new NVIDIA patch v. 181.20 is completely incompatible with Fo3 it appears.

This has been CONFIRMED by the posters at BethSoft's forums.

[Grandpa Troll]

This has been CONFIRMED by the posters at BethSoft's forums.

Your word is good here AAHZ

[Alinestra Covelia]

Spoiler:

This thread has reached something insane like 933, maybe now 934 posts. Don't they normally shut these down after 500? I don't want to jinx the thread but it surprised me.

[ZEE]

Your word is good here AAHZ

Thank you good sir

The good news is that BethSoft confirmed a new patch prior to the next DLC

Also NVIDIA has a BETA v. 185.0 driver (i havent tested it as of yet) and it is said to be moar stable than v 181.2 with regards to Fo3

also thought id pass along this little tidbit from one of their many 'complaint' thrades. I bolded for TL;DR:

found this posting on a different site and wanted to include it in here so they might listen responced to it


someone else wrote this completely they are alot smarter then me and guessing alot of ppl posting on here

# KCPTECH — November 7, 2008 @ 12:54 pm

I get the same error. It appears that even their Patches need some sort of testing before release too. I’ve tried the patch on the US version of the DVD as well as the updated exe from SecuROM. Get the same error on both. The patch does appear to modify some files in the Windows System folder through the Command BOX; however, it doesn’t do anything to the Game exe or anything in the directory.

I have found the primary issues causing the CTD and other crashes. I’ve sent 3 e-mails to Bethesda and no responses. My Computer Science Engineering department took a shot it. I purchased 320 copies and gave them the weekend to figure it out. Here are some of the results;

1.) Fallout 3 Installer installs an older version on C++ Visual 2005 that appears to affect the way the vidcard driver communicates with the game.

2.) Fallout 3 Installer installs a Beta release of DOTNETFX3.0 (.NET Framework 3.0). For users of .NET Framework 3.0 SP1 or even SP2 (Service Pack of the Framework not the OS), upon restarting their system (when changes take place), their game will be quite unstable.
Users of .NET 3.5 or Vista should have even more random crashes.

3.) Fallout 3 Installer installs a non Plug’n Play DRM device manager (not driver but a manager) that doesn’t like any 3rd party codecs (ie K-Lite, WinAMP, etc) and will usually see a CTD when a Hardware codec comes online. This usually occurs when interactive audio (client controlled speech) initializes (ie baby walking to daddy).

4. Fallout 3 Installer installs SecuROM Root kit as well as 8 hidden non Plug’n play virtual drivers. Owners with more than one Optical drive or a sata drive may encounter random drive access issues. Also, Imaging software or any software that may use its own ASPI drive (ie NERO, Roxio, Daemon, ISO, etc.) will have one of the 8 virtual drivers causing the system to do a random CTD. Reason why clients using a cracked EXE don’t experience the same volume of CTD as those who bought the game. However, the SecuROM root kits are still on the system and active. Once the SecuROM is also purged from the system, 60% of the crashes disappear. Unfortunately, they must remain on the system in order to play the game as they are part of the EULA.

5.) Fallout 3 also has its own built in MP3 codec coupled to its DRM to protect MP3’s on the DVD (in game). Unfortunately, the codec was never tested fully with hardware decoders like those of an X-FI. This can be varied by the lack of a hardware audio switch in the game options.

6.) Fallout 3 has 14 memory leaks that we found. Most are small, but there are a few that are quite large. Some areas of the map, the memory counter just spins at over 100 MB/sec. Most memory leaks are around 5 to 10 MB/sec.

7.) Fallout 3 video graphics buffer needs to be adjustable in the options and an automatic cache purger installed for cards over 512 MBs as well as linked buffers from SLI and crossfire cards. I’ve seen areas where names on the screen start to disappear and all you see are “Input Text Here” instead of V.A.T.S. or range or etc. The cache doesn’t get dumped on some maps. Most games dump their cache when a map reload occurs. This can be noticed when fast reloads occurs from map changes. Most users will just see their graphics card run out of memory (CTD and stuttering).

8.) Most games were fault free with a basic XP Pro SP2 reload, and only Critical updates and latest stock drivers. Installed the game and played it error free for nearly 4 days. Upon a system restart, lots of errors showed up. This means that Fallout 3 significantly changes the operating system. Far beyond reasonable accounts as all you can do with the system in not to play MP3’s, watch movies, make a CD or DVD, or play other games.

Hopefully, Bethesda will address the issues more than 100,000 people are having.

[DrSpike]

Spoiler:

This thread has reached something insane like 933, maybe now 934 posts. Don't they normally shut these down after 500? I don't want to jinx the thread but it surprised me.

The rule has been relaxed in recent times. Besides, although Snoopy369 and a couple others pop in from time to time no one really moderates this forum.

[Asher]

AAHZ, that post is about 99% bull**** and 1% funny, but 0% true.

The best part was how he gauges memory leaks with a rate. I'm not sure if this guy was trying to be funny and you all fell for it, or someone was trying to bull**** and you all fell for it. Either way, good work.

[Alinestra Covelia]

Bull**** and funny are not mutually exclusive. It presumably would be 0% true, 100% bull****, and 1% true.

[ZEE]

Fallout 3's new patch out today. Not only does my previous game not work at ALL, i restarted using my Windows Live account, and made a new char no problem... then the game crashed and not only did i lose that game too, Windows Live has no records of that game even though i saved it in 3 slots.

Also there are still about 9000 bugs as well as the CTD's related to any type of driver NVIDIA decides to make, or background program i decide to run, or if i want to look at pr0n and fap... the goddamn game will whine like a stuck whore on sundays.

SO AFTER DEALING WITH BETHSOFT'S BULL**** FOR OVER 7+ YEARS NOW, THEIR EPIC FAILURE WITH FALLOUT 3'S BUGS HAS GONE ON LONG ENUFF.


I HEREBY BLACKLIST THESE HORSE**** GAME DESIGNERS AND WANT MY 7 YEARS BACK

enjoy this bull**** game and your thread. im off to play Civ.

[Asher]

This is why console gaming is popular.

PC gaming is brutal. I very much regret buying Fallout 3 for the PC, I should've purchased it for the 360 instead.

[Space05us]

You killed Morrowind.

[Asher]

AAHZ should have videotaped his temper tantrum.

[DrSpike]

This is why console gaming is popular.

PC gaming is brutal. I very much regret buying Fallout 3 for the PC, I should've purchased it for the 360 instead.

I would have thought you'd have known better.

[Asher]

I would have thought you'd have known better.

My motivation was buying a game I could play while my SO is playing through his now 6-game backlog of Xbox 360 titles. We only have one console.