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  • Carrying weight is a bit goofy. One of those cases where realism gives way to fun.

    I think it's a bit better than the old school Fallouts, where you had to keep shuffling ammo between followers, and holding a few hundred shotgun shells would get mighty burdensome. It was more realistic, but I prefer this.

    Besides, if you want realism, how about keeping track of food, water, and shelter? That could make for a completely different game.
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    • Besides, if you want realism, how about keeping track of food, water, and shelter?


      I would be amazed if one of those mods doesn't come out soon. Putting requirements on when you have to eat, drink and the like.
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      • Who am I kidding. Those are already out.
        Last edited by Solver; December 16, 2008, 13:45.
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        • those types of Mods, esp when it was out for Oblivion, were so bugged and broken it ended up ruining one of my games as uninstalling it would not remove the hunger's damaging effects, and some areas of the game and certain bugs would cause fatal crashes. Plus it does not account for new food types from upcoming Mods, and does not even account for ALL the current food types in the game. Sometimes the dude that MAKES the mod just stops updating it.

          basically I hate all user mods.

          (BTW Solver your Civ Patch is the only user mod in HISTORY that i have ever kept and continued to use)
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          • Originally posted by Solver
            Besides, if you want realism, how about keeping track of food, water, and shelter?


            I would be amazed if one of those mods doesn't come out soon. Putting requirements on when you have to eat, drink and the like.
            Yes, because it's really fun having to eat and drink in a game.

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            • How about letting different people enjoy the game the way they like it? I like the eating-drinking mods mainly because they add another level of resource management. Food and water is a resource to manage that gives you bad consequences if you lack the stuff - so that fits my tastes.
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              • I wonder how soon a mod that divides the Capital Wasteland into hexes and makes combat turn-based will appear.
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                • No, i know it adds more to the fun, I really do not have a problem with the weightless ammo, but I should have to make choices about weapon...5-10 should be the sweetspot, not 15-20. But then I guess I could not carry loot back and sell it if I could not carry it.
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                  • I think if you were able to repair from anything (or, any vaguely appropriate type, say any weapon to weapon, or any armor to armor, with a bonus to repair if it's the right type) as opposed to now, I'd be okay with a dramatically smaller weight (say, 20-25% of current weight, though you'd have to adjust the weight of the very heavy armors possibly to balance them).
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                    • Originally posted by Solver
                      How about letting different people enjoy the game the way they like it?
                      Absolutely.

                      If crazy people want to spoil the game by introducing eating, drinking and a buttonpress to breath every 5 seconds then that's entirely up to them.

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                      • I have no more love for Sims and Sims-like gameplay than you do, Spikie
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                        • Originally posted by DrSpike


                          Absolutely.

                          If crazy people want to spoil the game by introducing eating, drinking and a buttonpress to breath every 5 seconds then that's entirely up to them.
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                          • I think I just had a WTF moment last night.

                            My current main quest is

                            Spoiler:
                            Find your Dad at vault 112, but I have not gone there yet, just did not go any further than finishing the Jefferson Memorial part of that quest)


                            So part of another thing I did (possibly freeing up some slaves in Paradise City) made the location Little Lamplight show up on the map. Since there was a big unexplored spaced between that and my last known location (Kaleey's B&B). I fast travel there and all the raiders respawned, so i had to kill them again.

                            So I start wandering west from there checking out locations along the way, here is the WTF part.

                            Spoiler:
                            I find vault 106 very close to the B&B, I activate the door and go inside. I'm thinking this might be another one of those random locations that you just get, no plot or sidequests involved). I'm noticing as I start to work my way in that there is very little in the way of loot. Then I hit this door on the first level and there are 3 (green on the compass) scientists in the room. They start to run as soon as they see me, and since they are green, I try to talk to them.

                            The first two get by me by the change I have to try to get close to them, but I managed to get close enough to the third one to get the chance to hit the E button. I hit the button, but this guy is not talking, still running away.

                            Then I realized what I just saw in green on the screen: Talk (E) Dad. WTF, I found Dad and he does not want to talk to me??? I looked around for a bit in there, but then thought, I probably should not be in here, so I left.


                            Then I went back to my journey, found another metro station, way out there, some craters, and what looks to be a Talon base, which I am currently checking out.
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                            • Yes, that's supposed to happen.

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                              That vault had hallucinogenic compounds in the atmosphere. Your character is imagining people from his or her childhood in the Vault.
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                              • I also hate how some map markers don't appear when they should. I mean, everyone in Big Town is talking about Little Lamplight and a lot of people tell you about Paradise Falls, but no, you don't get your map marker, you can't even say "wut?".
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