Console Wars - the revenge

[asleepathewheel]

According to Casamassina, Wii software outsold 360 software for the month and at a rate of 10 per new wii sold (13.5m)

Pretty remarkable considering the 1.8m gap in install base.

There is clearly a tremendous amount of wii software moving below the top ten threshold.

[Asher]

Link?

Pretty remarkable considering the 1.8m gap in install base.

And less remarkable considering the lower price and a lot of they are probably from the WiiPlay remote.

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by Asher
Link?

http://wii.ign.com/articles/846/846606p1.html

around 7:30 mark

Originally posted by Asher

Pretty remarkable considering the 1.8m gap in install base.

And less remarkable considering the lower price and a lot of they are probably from the WiiPlay remote.

Includes wiiplay of course, its based on npd. doesn't include wii sports and crossbow training. If you include those, the amount of new wii games in consumer's hands is obviously quite a bit higher.

So is revenue vs sales numbers going to be your new talking point in 2008?

[Asher]

I've talked about it before 2008...the fact that you pay attention to it now is moot.

And there's no way I'm going to listen to Matt talk. I want to see a sourced, official statement either way before I take it seriously. What he says on his lame podcast is irrelevant to me.

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by Asher
I've talked about it before 2008...the fact that you pay attention to it now is moot.

And there's no way I'm going to listen to Matt talk. I want to see a sourced, official statement either way before I take it seriously. What he says on his lame podcast is irrelevant to me.

Well, its been out a few days and hasn't been disputed anywhere.

And he is a journalist for a major website, lying about something as easily disproved as this would be a career ender. One can lie and obfuscate about a lot of things, but one can't fabricate numbers that other people can easily dispute.

[asleepathewheel]

UK sales chart for week 3 08

Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games’ stages a Herculean comeback, jumping back into the All Formats Top 40 at No1 with renewed stock handing Sega’s Wii title its third All Formats gold medal.

It is the third different title to reach No1 so far this year, selling more than twice as much as the next title on an individual format (Dr. Kawashima’s Brain Training). Activision’s multi-format ‘Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare’ has to settle for a drop of one place to No2 (-19%). Half of the All Formats Top 10 is made up of games that are exclusive to Nintendo formats (DS/Wii), boosted by renewed Wii and in particular DS Lite hardware stock. The last time 5 DS/Wii exclusive games featured in the All Formats Top 10 was in week 38 2007. 85% of sales from the Top 10 Individual Format Chart (Units) are from titles only released on Nintendo formats. The brain training games both benefit, each up 4 places with the original at No4 and the sequel at No5, while ‘Super Mario Galaxy’ breaks into the All Formats Top 10 for only the third time since its launch 10 weeks ago, up from No15 to No8. Every multi-format giant in the All Formats Top 10 loses sales except ‘The Simpsons Game’ which is up one place to No3 (+9%). Ubisoft’s ‘Assassin’s Creed’ slips from No3 to No6, EA’s ‘FIFA 08’ drops from No2 to No7 and Activisions’s ‘Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock’ falls from No5 to No9. Sega’s light gun (Wii Zapper) game ‘Ghost Squad’ is a new entry at No20, just ahead of the official Wii Zapper bundled game ‘Link’s Crossbow Training’ which re-enters the Top 40 at No22. The only other game released this week to debut in the All Formats Top 40 is Capcom’s ‘Zack & Wiki: Quest for Barbaros’ Treasure’ at No25.

TOP 40 ENTERTAINMENT SOFTWARE - INDIVIDUAL FORMATS (UNITS), WEEK ENDING 19 January 2008
01 (__) [WII] Mario & Sonic At The Olympic Games (Sega)
02 (02) [NDS] Dr Kawashima's Brain Training (Nintendo)
03 (03) [NDS] More Brain Training From Dr Kawashima (Nintendo)
04 (05) [WII] Super Mario Galaxy (Nintendo)
05 (01) [360] Call Of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Activision)
06 (20) [WII] Wii Play (Nintendo)
07 (08) [NDS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
08 (07) [NDS] Cooking Mama (505 Games)
09 (04) [WII] Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree (Nintendo)
10 (06) [360] Assassin's Creed (Ubisoft)
11 (10) [PS3] Assassin's Creed (Ubisoft)
12 (__) [WII] Ghost Squad (Sega)
13 (09) [PS3] Call Of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Activision)
14 (__) [WII] Link's Crossbow Training (Nintendo)
15 (24) [WII] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo)
16 (22) [NDS] Sight Training (Nintendo)
17 (__) [WII] Zack & Wiki: Quest For Barbaros Treasure (Capcom)
18 (__) [NDS] Imagine: Babies (Ubisoft)
19 (28) [NDS] The Simpsons Game (Electronic Arts)
20 (12) [PS3] Uncharted: Drake's Fortune (Sony Computer Ent.)
21 (__) [NDS] Mario Kart Ds (Nintendo)
22 (11) [PC] Football Manager 2008 (Sega)
23 (__) [WII] Carnival: Funfair Games (Take 2)
24 (18) [360] Halo 3 (Microsoft)
25 (31) [360] Mass Effect (Microsoft)
26 (23) [WII] Mario Strikers Charged Football (Nintendo)
27 (27) [WII] Tiger Woods Pga Tour 08 (Electronic Arts)
28 (__) [WII] Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga (Lucasarts)
29 (__) [NDS] My Word Coach (Ubisoft)
30 (__) [NDS] Mysims (Electronic Arts)
31 (29) [360] Forza Motorsport 2 (Microsoft)
32 (25) [360] Guitar Hero Iii: Legends Of Rock (Activision)
33 (14) [PS3] Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 (Konami)
34 (17) [PC] Call Of Duty 4: Modern Warfare (Activision)
35 (21) [WII] Super Paper Mario (Nintendo)
36 (16) [PS2] Guitar Hero Iii: Legends Of Rock (Activision)
37 (33) [WII] Wario Ware: Smooth Moves (Nintendo)
38 (__) [NDS] Who Wants To Be A Millionaire? (Ubisoft)
39 (__) [WII] Sonic And The Secret Rings (Sega)
40 (26) [360] Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 (Konami)
Wii = 15
DS = 11
X360 = 7
PS3 = 4
PC = 2
PS2 = 1

Wii third party titles:
01 (__) [WII] Mario & Sonic At The Olympic Games (Sega)
12 (__) [WII] Ghost Squad (Sega)
17 (__) [WII] Zack & Wiki: Quest For Barbaros Treasure (Capcom)
23 (__) [WII] Carnival: Funfair Games (Take 2)
27 (27) [WII] Tiger Woods Pga Tour 08 (Electronic Arts)
28 (__) [WII] Lego Star Wars: The Complete Saga (Lucasarts)
39 (__) [WII] Sonic And The Secret Rings (Sega)

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by asleepathewheel


And he is a journalist for a major website, lying about something as easily disproved as this would be a career ender. One can lie and obfuscate about a lot of things, but one can't fabricate numbers that other people can easily dispute.

I know some people around here that still try.

[Asher]

Originally posted by asleepathewheel


Well, its been out a few days and hasn't been disputed anywhere.

And he is a journalist for a major website, lying about something as easily disproved as this would be a career ender. One can lie and obfuscate about a lot of things, but one can't fabricate numbers that other people can easily dispute.

One can and has made mistakes in podcasts, which are very informal. I haven't seen this claim anywhere, so go figure it hasn't been debunked

[Asher]

The "source" has responded. Amazingly, it's made me even more skeptical:

http://www.8bitjoystick.com/archives/jake_confidential_xbox_360_red_ring_of_death_source_responds.php

Hi everyone. I understand the questions you all have. I hope you understand that it's a bit overwhelming to try and answer everything in real time. After tonight, I'm going to ask Jake (or Jacob?) to field your questions and funnel them to me for answers. Then we can do that in an organized way. But for now, I'm going to try and answer some that I thought were most important.

First, why the secrecy?

MS knows who I am. That's why I'm not concerned about self identifying to them in these postings with details only they would know, as some here have pointed out. The people who founded Xbox hw number 10. 1 left to go be the VP of manufacturing at Qualcomm, 1 left to go be the GM of engineering at Zune, 1 left after only 2 months in ‘99 due to conflicts with toddhol. He works on Surface now. The rest still work on Xbox. I am the only one who left the company entirely.

I am not concerned about MS knowing who I am. They are worried about me revealing their problems. Not the other way around. Plus, I have contacted every single attorney who has filed a lawsuit against MS and offered to help. Some have accepted, and that work is in progress. We'll talk about that in another post. It's very interesting, I just don't want a bunch of fan boys trying to hack my home PC (that I use for work). Harass my kids, call my house, etc.

Second, why now?

Well, it's not just now. I've been reaching out since before the product went into manufacturing. I left before launch. But many employees continued to contact me about the problems with the product and its launch. I did my best to help them figure out how to mitigate the problems caused my bad management decisions, and test the boxes right. Sometimes my ideas worked, sometimes they didn't. I then started to contact reporters. Sometimes it went no where. Sometimes, it resulted in a spectacular thing, like the ambush interview with toddhol just before MS admitted guilt. But still, it happened too slowly for me. That's one reason I'm doing this now.

When those articles were posted last July, I chimed in as a commentator. That's when Jake invited me for an interview. But I didn't see it then. It was only recently when I goog'ed "xboxfounder" on a whim that I found that old invite. So I contacted him to see if he was still interested. I sent him a current resume from my current work email account, and he believed me. If you guys don't, then tell me what you need to see as proof. And I will provide that.

Last: My motivation.

I have always been in a position to stand up for the customer. MS stopped me from doing that. They need to pay the price now. If you guys won't get together and make that happen, you have no hope for the future with them. It's not my fight, but I am here fighting. You decide what you want to do. And then do it!

He quit before launch and he decided now would be the good time to do this?

He contacted "every lawyer" who has filed a lawsuit against MS already? If so this person would be fishing for trouble for no reason, as nothing he disclosed was news and much of it was flat-out wrong or speculation, considering he doesn't even supposedly work for MS anymore. Not to mention what I said previously on MS not actually designing the Xbox innards.

I'm very curious if MS subpoenas some ISPs to get this guy's info and sues him for slander.

[Verto]

I'm very curious if MS subpoenas some ISPs to get this guy's info and sues him for slander.

Somebody's parents are going to be very upset if that happens..

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by Asher
I'm very curious if MS subpoenas some ISPs to get this guy's info and sues him for slander.

Not sure whether what he said constitutes as slanderous.

[Asher]

Originally posted by DrSpike


Not sure whether what he said constitutes as slanderous.

Well, allow me to assist you.

Slander: words falsely spoken that damage the reputation of another

I'd consider someone who says the new Xbox 360s have a 10% failure rate and purports to be in a position of authority on the issue would be committing slander. By definition.

[vovan]

Originally posted by Asher
I'm very curious if MS subpoenas some ISPs to get this guy's info and sues him for slander.

Meh. I'm sure they got bigger fish to fry. I doubt an anonymous guy on teh interwebs is going to do any discernible damage to them.

[DrSpike]

Originally posted by Asher


Well, allow me to assist you.

Slander: words falsely spoken that damage the reputation of another

I'd consider someone who says the new Xbox 360s have a 10% failure rate and purports to be in a position of authority on the issue would be committing slander. By definition.

It's probably true though.

[asleepathewheel]

Originally posted by Asher


Well, allow me to assist you.

Slander: words falsely spoken that damage the reputation of another

I'd consider someone who says the new Xbox 360s have a 10% failure rate and purports to be in a position of authority on the issue would be committing slander. By definition.

Libel, not slander.



I think we can only assume that if MS doesn't make a move on this guy, then the charges must be true.