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  • Maybe I'll get the PC version of Halo (which AFAIK is up to standards) just to see what the fuss is all about. Had a short go at the game a few years back, but it didn't really leave a marked impression on me. Whenever I read a review, check screenies etc I also always have a hard time finding elements that are attractive to me. The level design and atmosphere appear rather dull and the characters rather corny, so I can only assume the technical aspects must be beyond perfection.
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    • It's a science fiction story about a super space marine who fights fanatic aliens and deals with a crazy AI. The story is a lot like Marathon's (a 14 year old game), except dumber, and without the compelling array of competing AIs like Tyco, Durandel and Lela.

      A typical level in Halo: You need to get from point A to B. You have a gun. Do your thing. There will be people fighting around you as minor help, and occasionally a timer. Wohoo the innovation!

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      • Originally posted by mactbone
        Huh, Bioshock has mostly 10s that I can see, why isn't that being dragged down to 8.2 by bitter people?
        If it has mostly 10s, why isn't it near 10 for its user rating instead of 9?

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        Also, I didn't think I'd have to state the obvious, but Halo is in a different pop-culture league than BioShock. That means far more backlash from snobs and fanboys.
        "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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        • Originally posted by Wiglaf
          It's a science fiction story about a super space marine who fights fanatic aliens and deals with a crazy AI. The story is a lot like Marathon's (a 14 year old game), except dumber, and without the compelling array of competing AIs like Tyco, Durandel and Lela.

          A typical level: You need to get from point A to B. You have a gun. Do your thing. There will be people fighting around you as minor help, and occasionally a timer. Wohoo the innovation!
          You act like none of us have played Marathon.

          It's an XBL game...

          And it doesn't compare with Halo or Halo 2.
          "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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          • Its story is better, which was my point. Its gameplay was also more innovative, which is sad.

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            • Originally posted by Asher

              You act like none of us have played Marathon.

              It's an XBL game...

              And it doesn't compare with Halo or Halo 2.
              All 3 are on XBL? Did not know that.

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              • Originally posted by Wiglaf
                Its story is better, which was my point. Its gameplay was also more innovative, which is sad.
                Is it really?

                Have you played it? What was innovative about the gameplay?

                I love Bioshock, but its gameplay wasn't that innovative. Replace "plasmids" with "magic" and it's been all done before.
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                • Originally posted by Wiglaf


                  All 3 are on XBL? Did not know that.
                  Just Marathon 2.
                  "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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                  • Durandal had some good puzzles, plus BOBS (marines in Halo), a compelling plot (better than Halo's IMO), and some cool enemies.

                    Halo has no puzzles, which is probably good since they're cliche'd now anyway. It's got BOBS and a similar space marine story with competing alien races and a bat**** AI.

                    The reason Marathon Infinity wasn't so hot is that it was just more of the same as Durandal and Marathon 1. It even had a level editor, IIRC called Phorte, and an object editor. History repeats itself..

                    So, anyway, imagine my surprise that in fifteen years all FPS's have done is spruce up the graphics and sound. And people are losing it in their pants for a derivative story and some new weapon effects?

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                    • Originally posted by Wiglaf
                      Durandal had some good puzzles, plus BOBS (marines in Halo), a compelling plot (better than Halo's IMO), and some cool enemies.
                      I hate Puzzles in my shooters. One reason I'm not a fan of HL.
                      "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                      Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                      • I agree at this point. Halo managed to innovate with the vehicles and the good atmosphere and some varied missions. Halo 2 kept a steady pace. Now Halo 3 is...keeping a steady pace.

                        Can you see why my interest has declined linearly from iteration to iteration?

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                        • Originally posted by Asher


                          I hate Puzzles in my shooters. One reason I'm not a fan of HL.

                          "A person cannot approach the divine by reaching beyond the human. To become human, is what this individual person, has been created for.” Martin Buber

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                          • Originally posted by Wiglaf
                            I agree at this point. Halo managed to innovate with the vehicles and the good atmosphere and some varied missions. Halo 2 kept a steady pace. Now Halo 3 is...keeping a steady pace.

                            Can you see why my interest has declined linearly from iteration to iteration?
                            I believe I asked you why Halo 2 kept a steady pace of innovation, while 3 does not. Both made minor tweaks and additions to gameplay.
                            "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                            Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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                            • Halo 1: innovative, quite exciting
                              Halo 2 : keep steady pace, kind of exciting
                              Halo 3: keep steady pace, not very exciting anymore

                              Why should Halo 3 excite me more than 1? I don't see why I'm supposed to drop my pants for this the most exciting videogame event evar, if it's just keeping steady.

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                              • Because some people like resolution. An end to the conflict.

                                Judging from your Bush avatar, I can see why this doesn't appeal to you.
                                "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
                                Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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