Apolyon vs the Universe! - Part 8

[Sparrowhawk]

Anyone have an opinion on Storage? Early in the game I think we were all in agreement that they were a waste of resources and fields (and I still laugh when I scan someone that has them) but it is becoming more and more apparent as I try and stockpile resources that they have a purpose. It is frustrating to be short 2k on a resource and to have to ship it from a colony or do a small attack on an inactive (or more recently, send it on espionage probes in about 20 seperate shipments ). I see a use for storage facilities, but not sure how far I would take them, and still don't plan on leaving resources on my planet unless I am sitting at my computer.

Anyone else make use of them or do you still laugh at anyone that builds them?

/me

[Hercules]

Storage facility costs are quite cheap really in the end. And they allow the mines to keep producing, which when you are hungry for the final drop of Deut, can be quite useful.

[Skanky Burns]

I have built them on my home planet to a fairly high level. I tend to have stockpiles sitting there while I am on, so I don't want my mines to stop producing while I am on. Neither do I want to continuously ship resources around. The res spent on them can not be destroyed either - they stay as part of your score forever (unless you remove the colony they are on).

[Sparrowhawk]

If you don't mind my asking where are you at with Fields on that planet?

My main planet where I do the majority of my research from has used 110/163 Fields, I think I could upgrade more of my storage without worry about running out of fields anytime soon but eventually it could become an issue.

My other two large planets are at 104/185 and 98/190 so they are even less of a problem.

I am trying to figure out the max number of Fields I would eventually use, if I stay playing this game for 6 months for instance and maxed out a colony, how big could it get.........say..........
Mines.......Metal/Crystal/Deut 25/25/25
Plants........Solar/Fusion 28/14

Research Lab 12
Robotic Factory 12
Shipyard 12
Nanite Factory 3

Rocket Silo 6

That uses a total of 162 (with the default starting colony having 163 fields) so there would be no room on the main planet for storage, though by the time you get to the point of this level of infrastructure deconstructing the storage shouldn't be a big issue . Any planet with more then 163 Fields should be able to build storage of whatever extra fields are available as I can't imagine improvements much beyond what I have indicated above.

/me

[Skanky Burns]

I'm using 131 fields at the moment. If worst comes to worst I can deconstruct them, as you said. Dumping on the moon temporarily is an easy enough solution.

[DarkCloud]

Just wondering, what's the point in building a robotic factory past level 4? Other than increased production times?

[Sparrowhawk]

I think you mean decreased production times

But I think that is the only point, and I have 3 of them at level 10 (with the intention of building nanite factories if I can ever gather the resources for them and they require robotic factory level 10). As you continue increasing your buildings (mines, plants, research lab or shipyards) the times increase dramatically and having increased levels of RF helps.

Here is a link to a site that shows production times, I have found it quite useful.

Calculator

You can use this not only to calculate production time and cost for buildings, but for research, ships or defenses too.

/me

Example:

I currently have a level 10 shipyard, I will be increasing it to level 11 at some point. With only a level 4 RF it would take 2 days 1 hour 9 minutes and 7 seconds to construct. With a level 10 RF it will take me 22 hours 20 minutes 30 second.

If time is not a factor for you then you might not care if it takes longer, but for me at least, that extra day plus is one that I don't want to wait.

(and having the nanite factory will dramatically decrease that further.......same example with a level one nanite decreases it to 11 hours 10 minutes).

[SirOsis]

For a Nanite Factory you need it to be lvl 10.

[Spaced Cowboy]

Hey guys don't forget about teraforming. I'm not sure how many fields that buys you though.

[Kataphraktoi]

(and having the nanite factory will dramatically decrease that further.......same example with a level one nanite decreases it to 11 hours 10 minutes).

For its cost,i would think only the first 4 levels are even viable,although i wonder how players like Pcrash,who i see cart off millions, have raised theirs?

Debating weather or not to get back into the action. On one hand, i have lots of spare time...one the other, i only have some battleships\heavy transport left out of my devastated fleet.And i might be dissapointed if i dont get 7000 points\week again although i probably wont play seriously if i do play. descisions,descisions...(its a royal pain in the arse trying to find targets)

[Kataphraktoi]

Originally posted by Spaced Cowboy
Hey guys don't forget about teraforming. I'm not sure how many fields that buys you though.

Up to 300. each unit of forming gives you 5 fields,and takes 1 up to exist,so it could be costly i imagine.

[Skanky Burns]

Based on my experience with the moon, terraforming would be very expensive indeed. Although 5 fields (4 useable) would be a lot better than 3 fields (2 useable).

[Hercules]

Bah I will need to find 1mil Metal + 500K Crystal + 100K Deut for a Nanite factory.

And even then it will take, what 25 days or did I read something about reducing that length of time.

Edit: With Factory 10 and those amount of resources it takes over 2 days.

[Hercules]

Btw That Calculater is a useful site.

[Hueij]

Found this message in the alliance screen:

Application of the sleeper
Hello I'm Skanky Burns' brother. His BROTHER. And I'm, like, twice as smart and three times as pretty.

Skanky, do you really have a brother? And if so, should we let him in?