The best sequel

[Pythagoras]

RR Tycoon 2

[Pythagoras]

... and civ 3 is a good game.

[Arnelos]

Originally posted by Pythagoras
... and civ 3 is a good game.

Of course it is! It's only a few fools who worship Civ2 like it's a god who think otherwise.

[Adagio]

Civ 3 is ok... I wouldn't go back to Civ 2, but it wasn't that good a sequel either...

[Kuciwalker]

Originally posted by Arnelos
Of course it is! It's only a few fools who worship Civ2 like it's a god who think otherwise.

[MORON]

SMAC >>>> Civ3

ph34r my xenobanana army if you disagree.

[Guynemer]

I too have long felt the love for Star Control 2.


Star Control 3, however...

[DRoseDARs]

SC3 falls in the catagory of "Games Which We Do Not Speak Of." Such great potential; such miserable failure.

[Solver]

Well some are clearly viewing the thread as best game that happens to be a sequel, not sequel that added the most.

What if the first game was crap? Then the sequel could be much better, and qualify under Solver's or UR's definition, even if it wasn't as good overall as a sequel to a great game, like Civ2.

However... a sequel to a game that was crap, even if the sequel is mediorce, already adds a ton! I can't think of any crap game with a decent sequel right now though....

I don't know how Doom 2 counts under your definition. It was a great game, as great as Doom1. What did it add, all new levels. Yes, that doesn't seem much, more like an expansion now, but those days there were no level editors yet, no easily accessible mod community/download servers, so I'd say that adding 32 levels to a game with huge gameplay WAS a strong sequel.

[Arnelos]

Originally posted by DRoseDARs
SC3 falls in the catagory of "Games Which We Do Not Speak Of." Such great potential; such miserable failure.

Again, maybe I'm just sick. I liked SC3. It wasn't worth the $30 I spent on it, to be sure. It was a huge let-down compared to its potential, no argument there, either.

That said, SC3 wasn't BAD, either. It had its moments and was at least fair to moderately good. I certainly enjoyed myself when I played through it the first time, even if it wasn't what I was hoping for.

I had a similar reaction to Deus Ex 2. Sure, it wasn't anywhere nearly the game Deus Ex was, but as with Star Control 2, those are pretty big shoes to fill. It was a fair to moderately good game and if you don't spend the whole time you're playing the game thinking "man, this sucks COMPARED TO the first game", you might actually like it for itself.

[Arnelos]

Back to the topic of the thread, I still think that Star Control 2 wins this contest by leaps and bounds. No game can match it for both being an AWESOME game (one of the best of all time) along with being IMMENSELY better than the original game upon which it was based.

In many respects, Star Control 2 is also a sequel or at least an inheretor of the Starflight series for Atari and Amiga (by the same design team as Star Control 2, actually). Even compared to the great games that were the Starflight series, Star Control 2 still makes itself the best sequel of all time in my opinion.

[DRoseDARs]

I'm trying very hard to agree with you that SC3 doesn't suffer from T.F.S. (Total F*cking Suckage) Syndrome despite them intentionally wanting it to be a departure from SC2, but imo it is simply too far from its predecessor. Additionally, that game has probably killed ANY chance of there being a SC4. That's the biggest reason I dislike the sequel.

[Ben Kenobi]

Civ 2 is the best sequel.

Plenty of improvements over Civ 1, particularly the macro language.

As for Civ 3, well, it puts me to sleep everytime I play.

[Kuciwalker]

SMB3

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Pythagoras
RR Tycoon 2

I cannot tell you how big this game is a disappointment.

Can't build a tunnel? What??