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**Hueij** · August 16, 2004, 04:48

Frontier: Elite 2.

Too bad there weren't any Thargoids in it

**Skanky Burns** · August 16, 2004, 06:26

I agree with Arnelos. XCom sequels got steadily worse as they went along. Apocalypse was passable, albeit unfinished, but the rest were either regurgitated and buggy or just... I'll stop here to prevent myself from destroying my keyboard.

I'll also agree with my previous statement. GTA 3 and Vice City both improved on the already great GTA1, adding significant improvements - not the least of which were different view-points.

**BustaMike** · August 16, 2004, 06:36

Originally posted by Kuciwalker

@ BM

Sooo... why are you shaking your head?

**Urban Ranger** · August 16, 2004, 07:24

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
Is this just "best game that happens to be a sequel", or "sequel that most improved upon the original", or what?

I think they are one and the same.

**General Ludd** · August 16, 2004, 07:28

Master of Orion 2, not really because of the changes from the previous, just by virtue of being a great game and also a sequel.

**Jamski** · August 16, 2004, 07:30

Baldur's Gate 2, by actually managing to be even better than BG1.

You can't beat that for a great sequel to a great game

-Jam

**duke o' york** · August 16, 2004, 07:49

Sensible World of Soccer.

Took an already wonderful game, and just made it even better. And if you chose to start your career in the lower divisions then they added a challenge to the game too, which had perhaps been lacking from the earlier games (if you'd played them as often as I had

).

**DrSpike** · August 16, 2004, 07:57

Lemmings: Tribes and Gabriel Knight 2 are two that spring immediately to mind as great sequels.

**Jamski** · August 16, 2004, 07:59

Wow, I remember playing that for endless days with my brother. We'd play a whole league season. I was always better at managing the team, and he was better at contolling the game, so it was always a close thing at the end of the season. It was fun to play in the Icelandic second division and so on

-Jam

**Father Beast** · August 16, 2004, 09:37

Heroes Of Might and Magic II is really good.
Civ2 does it even better

but the winner is.....

Curse Of Monkey Island!!!!!

Managed to take the funniest game I've ever played (The Secret Of Monkey Island) and do it even better. If I hadn't played it, I wouldn't have thought it possible.

**Buck Birdseed** · August 16, 2004, 09:44

You, sir, have no taste. Curse is by far the weakest of the four Monkey Island games.

**Solver** · August 16, 2004, 10:02

Age of Empires 2. Took AoE, that was already a great change to RTS, added great new feautures while staying faithful to original, great all-around

.

**General Ludd** · August 16, 2004, 10:05

Originally posted by Solver
Age of Empires 2. Took AoE, that was already a great change to RTS, added great new feautures while staying faithful to original, great all-around

.

See, this is why we need some real qualifier. Age of Empire 2 is a good sequel when it's compared to it's predeccesor, but when when you compaire it to games that are actually good you can't call it a "best" of anything.

**quantum_mechani** · August 16, 2004, 16:13

Dominions II !

**Solver** · August 16, 2004, 16:30

See, this is why we need some real qualifier. Age of Empire 2 is a good sequel when it's compared to it's predeccesor, but when when you compaire it to games that are actually good you can't call it a "best" of anything.

Well, I guess I can. AoE1 (and, by extension, AoE2) are some of the best games I've played. There are games I like more (like Civ), but I think that Civ2 wasn't as much an improvement over Civ1 as AoE2 over AoE1, for instance.

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