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  • It was close: my original kill order was Gamecube and then I changed.

    This all harkens back to an earlier discussion about whether mafia should be permitted to contact each other if they guess and want a double victory.

    But how come I got two kills in a row at the end?
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    • I could write a nice ending paragraph, but you already know what the beef is and we even have a sign-up thread so I'll just spare everybody and spill the beans.

      Originally PM'ed to me by Kuciwalker
      Hercules was the first mafia to get the kill. The clue I've been giving for him is "strength". If you look, you'll see that in every single one where he got a kill (I think in one, it was actually at the beginning of the next one) Hammond, the clue-giver (whose role was later taken up by Ed Regis, as I mentioned) mentioned something about a lot of strength. Hell, I even said godlike strenght in one. I'm surprised no one noticed that.

      Ben Kenobi is the other mafia, the one who just made two consecutive kills. His clue is religion. Again, Hammond was the clue-giver.
      The final round written by me didn't contain really any clues, I thought that there'd been enough already. And what do you know, a certain double Mafia victory became a villager victory. Congrats to Spaced and Gamecube64.
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      • Kuciwalker [Quote]btw, for reasons I won't divulge here, the mafia from the previous chapter is doing the kill in this one as well, but
        both are still alive.[/b]



        Kuciwalker
        Ben Kenobi is the other mafia, the one who just made two consecutive kills. His clue is
        religion. Again, Hammond was the clue-giver.

        The problem is this is not true:
        Kill Mafia Victim
        Mafia O Hercules Adagio
        Mafia 1 Ben Kenobi Kass
        Mafia 2 Hercules GJRamsey
        Mafia 3 Ben Kenobi Skanky
        Mafia 4 Hercules Jonny
        Mafia 5 Ben Kenobi Duke of York
        Mafia 6 Hercules Rah
        Mafia 7 Ben Kenobi Flameflash
        Mafia 8 Hercules Loinburger
        Mafia 9 Hercules Ben Kenobi

        I was not expecting to have the last kill, unless the other Mafia was killed and he wasn't.
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        • Yes, my calculations showed Ben Kenobi should kill last round. Boy, I was surprised to see him killed. For a moment I suspected Spaced Cowboy. But when you voted second Herc, I knew it was your plot.

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          • So if Ben Kenobi had the last kill correctly, according to his own thinking (of achieving a double Mafia win) he would have killed either Spaced Cowboy or Gamecube64.

            This would have left Ben Kenobi, Gamecube64/Spaced and Me.

            To continue: Ben Kenobi would, again according to his reasoning, voted Gamecube64/Spaced or me. If he voted Gamecube/Spaced I too would have voted Gamecube/Spaced. If he voted for me, I would then have voted for him, leaving Gamecube/Spaced to choose. But in either scenario it would be a Mafia victory regardless.
            Last edited by Hercules; August 25, 2004, 06:31.
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            • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi

              Look at my orders to Kassi. I figured you were Mafia some time ago, and left you alone. You never appeared even on my final list because I wanted a cool allied Mafia victory.
              Risky business Ben. It is customary to execute the other mafia without delay as soon as you are sure about it. And it is prudent too. Rah played the same way when I was GM.

              EDIT: Make the above sentence my eighth survival rule.

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              • I went by with what Kuciwalker told me: that Ben had killed consecutively twice. Therefore I assumed that Hercules was the next one. Herc was clearly nonplussed by this, and I should have suspected the matter that instant, but I had to dance around the issue to avoid divulging anything, and had Hercules do the kill.

                So I'll just hop on merrily here and wash my hands of the entire affair if you please
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                • interesting game by all!

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                  • So again, when down to three people, the mafia voted second. hmmmmm. Patterns can be dangerous.
                    It's almost as if all his overconfident, absolutist assertions were spoonfed to him by a trusted website or subreddit. Sheeple
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                    • Yea! I got mail!
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                      • I look forward to Kuciwalkers fuller explanation and of the clues and the kill method when he returns.
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                        • Mafia 8 Hercules Loinburger
                          Skywalker screwed up my kill. I wanted to off Loinburger, and Skywalker missed my queue, flipped a coin, and killed Flameflash, all before waiting for my response. Since he messed up, I demanded that I get my kill as intended, Loinburger.

                          So this is the true order of Mafia kills.


                          Mafia 6 Hercules Rah
                          Mafia 7 (Skywalker coinflip) Flameflash
                          Mafia 8 (Ben Kenobi) Loinburger
                          Mafia 9 Hercules Ben Kenobi

                          Interesting that both of us had Loinburger to be killed in the same round.

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                          • Thanks a bit clearer now but was confusing at the time.
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                            • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi

                              However, it is a testament of the competence of the villagers that the only thing that could stop the mafia were the mafia themselves.

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                              • Congrats to the survivors, who got it just in time.

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