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  • Well if someone casts darkness and you don't have ultravision the same concealment bonus is in effect. Blind fighting helps reduce/removes the bonus IIRC.

    Ultravision is a better counter than blind fighting, but it's sometimes hard to get. I had more trouble with some low level bad guys that could cast darkness than mephistopheles in HotU.

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    • Since we're aleady talking about concelement, darkness and such.... Anyone want to suggest some character building tips for a Monk of the Dark Moon?

      I'm thinking of a human monk/sorceror multiclass that doesn't use any weapons. (except maybe shurikens)

      The problem I'm having with ability scores is that with this multiclass I really need quite alot of everything to get what I want. I need 15 dexterity for circle kick, I need wisdom for the monk bonuses, I need 13 intelligence for disarm, I need alot of charisma to learn my spells as I progress, and I need strength for damage/hit bonuses (I could take weapon finesse, but feats are sparse and it doesn't provide extra damage)

      What about this?

      12 strength
      14 dexterity
      12 constitution
      14 wisdom
      13 intelligence
      13 charisma

      I would riase dexterity at level 4 and 8, and charisma at 12 and 16, and whatever beyond that.

      As for feats, the only ones I have marked down as absolutely neccisary are Blind Fighting, Circle Kick, Disarm and Expertise (I'm thinking that my starting feats would be Blind Fighting and expertise). Dodge would be nice too, and is there really any point in geting mobility when tumble will be maxed? Is weapon focus really worth bothering with as a monk? Is improved critical worth bothering with when you don't use a weapon? (unarmed strikes only get criticals on a 20)

      And spells... I don't really need alot of help in that department, but maybe if there's someone here who's more familiar with forgotten realms they could tell me what's most typical of a Monk of the Dark Moon to have. I'd just be geting things like magic armour, ray of enfeblement, negativity burst, darkness, ghostly vissage, ect...
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      • Owch... Monk/Sorc multi is going to be pretty weak stat-wise. You're not really going to have good STR for damage, nor good DEX or WIS for AC (the big Monk advantage) and with a low CHA you'll not get many bonus spells, and your DCs will be low too... The one thing you can dump out really is CON, and compensate with "not getting hit" and DR spells and items. So I'd suggest an Elf, since you can get your CON down to 6 then, although you'll have to level monk/sorc equally to avoid an xp penalty since the favoured class is Wizard.

        Actually, a Monk/Wizard is going to work better, since you need some INT anyway, and then you can dump out the CHA and save stat points for the important 4. Ergh, ugly stats with 6 CON and 8 CHA, low low low HP, but hard to hit, gets spells faster, and with no risk of an xp penalty for the multiclass.

        You're going to need Improved Unarmed Fighting and Improved Critical (Unarmed) as well, and Knockdown/Improved Knockdown is great for a monk too. (I suggest buffing, casting Invisiblity, running in at hasted Monkspeed, putting them on the floor and Flurrying them before running off to re-cast invis)

        Oh and with the low CON you'll get crappy Concentration checks, so Combat Casting is a must. I'd drop the crap feats like Blind Fighting (blindness is very rare with Monk's exellent saves), Dodge (a mere +1 AC vs the first attack each round) and Expertise (Monk BaB is 5 lower than a fighter's at level 20 anyway, and the Mage levels will make it even worse. Adding Expertise will mean never hitting anything)

        But this is all from a power point of view, not a RP one, so don't be discouraged

        -Jam
        1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform. - Dauphin
        That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
        Check out the ALL NEW Galactic Overlord Website for v2.0 and the Napoleonic Overlord Website or even the Galactic Captians Website Thanks Geocities!
        Taht 'ventisular link be woo to clyck.

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        • Today in the Gypsy Camp.



          -Jam
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          1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform. - Dauphin
          That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
          Check out the ALL NEW Galactic Overlord Website for v2.0 and the Napoleonic Overlord Website or even the Galactic Captians Website Thanks Geocities!
          Taht 'ventisular link be woo to clyck.

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          • what spell is that?

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            • Its a whole HEAP of spells - look at all the mages and clerics standing about. Epic Ruin, Hellball, Combust and Thunderclap are the main culprits here.

              -Jam
              1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform. - Dauphin
              That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
              Check out the ALL NEW Galactic Overlord Website for v2.0 and the Napoleonic Overlord Website or even the Galactic Captians Website Thanks Geocities!
              Taht 'ventisular link be woo to clyck.

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              • Hey, I'm back.

                I lost my computer in a thunderstorm about a week ago and haven't been online since. Now that I'm back, I think I'll go visit Folderol once my various PBEM games are moving again.
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                • lost?

                  I recommend surger protectors, and unplugging the surge protectors during a storm. I'd hate to lose mine.

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                  • Originally posted by Jamski
                    Its a whole HEAP of spells - look at all the mages and clerics standing about. Epic Ruin, Hellball, Combust and Thunderclap are the main culprits here.

                    -Jam
                    I take it there are no level caps then. I need to get playing. I still have yet to use those really cool spells like hellball.

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                    • There is a level cap at 40 IIRC. Tonnes of new (some epic) spells were added in HotU, and I think hellball is one of them.

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                      • Yeah... level cap at 40, 'cos Bioware couldn't imagine anyone getting any higher

                        Good game tonight Arnelos, was nice to see you back

                        -Jam
                        1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform. - Dauphin
                        That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
                        Check out the ALL NEW Galactic Overlord Website for v2.0 and the Napoleonic Overlord Website or even the Galactic Captians Website Thanks Geocities!
                        Taht 'ventisular link be woo to clyck.

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                        • I found another fun server to play on; Anphillia.


                          It's so nice to have everyone roleplaying in an RPG for a change.
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                          • I finally got back into work today, and being the conscienscous employee that I am, the first thing I did was to unwrap my new copy of HotU and e-mail the code to DrSpike. Hopefully he will be able to join the Folderol fun soon!

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                            • I will be, but at present am being distracted by City of Heroes.

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                              • I'm still hoping to see you two there, if only for a visit

                                -Jam
                                1) The crappy metaspam is an affront to the true manner of the artform. - Dauphin
                                That's like trying to overninja a ninja when you aren't a mammal. CAN'T BE DONE. - Kassi on doublecrossing Ljube-ljcvetko
                                Check out the ALL NEW Galactic Overlord Website for v2.0 and the Napoleonic Overlord Website or even the Galactic Captians Website Thanks Geocities!
                                Taht 'ventisular link be woo to clyck.

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