Multiplayer Strategy Guide 2nd Version

[Mathemagician]

Originally posted by Grandpa Troll
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Originally posted by Mathemagician
does that include games where i am not involved as player or moderator, Gramps ?

YES!!

im relieved to hear that.

Originally posted by Grandpa Troll
The way I see it if someone doesnt know they shouldnt tell people thre isnt going to be a problem..

i assume that aims at me.
well, this game keeps surprising me with all kinds of things that dont make any sense.
people said SLIC files are only needed for the starting player. but suddenly they cause problems even if i did not start the game with them. suddenly they cause problems if i dont actually use them anymore.
my 'clean' install seems to cause as many problems in MP as my 'unclean' one.
and then some things work different on mac than on PC...

this program is more confusing and kills more theories than nuclear physics !

[hatschy]

Originally posted by Grandpa Troll
I am about to say the heck with any modified games..INCLUDING OFT AND OFT2 and simply uninstall and start from scratch..

If the instructions written by Activision do not lie to us, then scenarios that reside solely inside the "scenarios" folder and do not change any other aspect (.txt file or whatever) of the game, like the OFT scenario, do NOT have any influence, if you do not use the scenario in the setup screen.

[Mathemagician]

same should be true about SLIC only modifications, right ?
i think i read that somehere too. or are there known exceptions ?

[hatschy]

I haven't tested it, but i think that, if you change the "scenario.slc" file in the "ctp_data\default\gamedata" folder, this could affect all of your games (at least the ones that you start after the modification).

[Mathemagician]

never even knew that there was a scenario.slc in that folder.
and what about a modified script.slc ?

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Mathemagician


im relieved to hear that.



i assume that aims at me.
well, this game keeps surprising me with all kinds of things that dont make any sense.
people said SLIC files are only needed for the starting player. but suddenly they cause problems even if i did not start the game with them. suddenly they cause problems if i dont actually use them anymore.
my 'clean' install seems to cause as many problems in MP as my 'unclean' one.
and then some things work different on mac than on PC...

this program is more confusing and kills more theories than nuclear physics !

That remark was aimed at "everyone"

Not "you" specifically

What I am ticked at Math is that if a person starts doing things they should "know" not assume..

I am just as guilty for acceptiing a word of a person as the person giving it..

Ok

moving on..what is strange is all these things coming up recently..like in past 6-8 months...

But it is a game and alas we can simply restart with what we feel are clean installed files

Ok..moving right along...

[hatschy]

Originally posted by Mathemagician
never even knew that there was a scenario.slc in that folder.
and what about a modified script.slc ?

I don't know, but generally I avoid touching files outside the "scenarios" folder. The one and only exception to this is setting the RUINS_CHANCE_PER_BOX variable temporarily to 0.0 when starting a match without ruins.

[Mathemagician]

Originally posted by Grandpa Troll
What I am ticked at Math is that if a person starts doing things they should "know" not assume..

i would agree. but then you dont get anything ever changed in this game modwise. the game is just so intransparent most of the time. so you can hardly do anything else but make a dozen test runs with all combinations you can think of and hope you covered all relevant cases.
if it werent for some people that NEVER accept anything, i might be more willing to admit im only 99% sure about a certain thing (percentage dropping with every new problem message )

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by Mathemagician


i would agree. but then you dont get anything ever changed in this game modwise. the game is just so intransparent most of the time. so you can hardly do anything else but make a dozen test runs with all combinations you can think of and hope you covered all relevant cases.
if it werent for some people that NEVER accept anything, i might be more willing to admit im only 99% sure about a certain thing (percentage dropping with every new problem message )

Like the picture here..very simple..N O T!!!

[blackice]

Mathemagician I would accept it in this thread cuz it's transperant. What ever it is toss it out, changing unit cost, strength, action what ever toss it out. I am sure most of us here are wide open to the experiments.

My bet is Keygen, Hatch and many others would like to dabble in your ideas. I would be willing to test a few I have a spare machine up and running. The one I am on is in the garage. Just collecting dust and serving.

[Grandpa Troll]

8 eyes are better than two and Math I think between the likes of you,Blackice,Hatschy and Quinns...you could all work out some of the bugs perhaps?

Peace

Grandpa

[blackice]

Gramps that is my moto: 8 eyes are better than one...

[Grandpa Troll]

Originally posted by blackice
Gramps that is my moto: 8 eyes are better than one...

Helps me see how to clean house better too

[blackice]

Ok so some have seen the marine, fighter, jet tactic, so what is the defence?

The same thing of course, face it the tank in this mix is too costly, too much to maintain (double the fighter) same for ships. So if your at this point in the game consider just the marines and the aero to space planes. The lower maintence cost's allow you to build generally 2-1 if the opponent choose's tanks. If not you should be able to hold your own. Face it most players do the rabbit and have very little room for your entire civilization at this point in the game. So it becomes usually a space race or nuke war. That takes us back to the space plane, nuke, marine, fighter combo. Leathal and very effective in pin pointing key cities to bring a civ. to it's knees.

Nice odds for defence and offence, especially considering the weak defence tanks have to offer.

It's an awesom combination which lasts a long time in the game. Remember to cash in old troops and planes for better units. Generally a cash in of old units nets a 1-2 odds. Meaning the unit you trade for is usually twice as good. Cashing in for space marines is a little different. Consider using the old unit cash ins for city improvements and or wonders. By now the space plane, space fighter will rule for some time to come.

Next up one way to counter the opponents having London's...

Sure be nice to hear some rookies express here what they have learned . Same with the experienced, Dimytes for one you have 12 years online experience surely you have something to offer the newies, let alone the hardcores

Lets do it people let's get this thread back up and running

[blackice]

So what we now have a silent majority? buttheads

Ok summer is over time to game and contribute...

Next up:

Why it takes 2 months or more to clear b.b.b.b. from one's mind...

Game on.