design versus coding

[TCO]

you weren't getting it done, regardless. I've been right on target with my predicitons.

So...yes...the heart attack is an excuse.

[Velociryx]

I remember those predictions.

Let's see:

* We wouldn't accomplish anything (wander in the wilderness for years, a la Free Civ)

Status: We have a working prototype that's kept in-house, and are working toward something with sufficient polish to release. In the meantime, the work on the game has already spawned two book-length works (one novel and one compilation), with two more planned.

Conclusion: The prediction has not come to pass.

* We'll make some noise, and then disappear quietly like GG&S

Status: We are still here, and still working at it.

Conclusion: The prediction has not come to pass.

* Our refusal to use project management tools, set arbitrary deadlines, and give out hard numbers will doom us.

Status: As above, we are still here.

Conclusion: The prediction has not come to pass.

Did I miss any?

Much as it chaffes at you, we haven't died out.

Much as you would like to call a heart attack (two of them, actually), an excuse, deep down, you know it isn't.

Don't you?

-=Vel=-

[TCO]

bull****...it turned out like I said.

[Velociryx]

read above. were those not YOUR predictions? Did I miss any?

-=Vel=-

[TCO]

you're a bull****ter. how many deadlines have you missed? you don't have squat and that's what I predicted.

[Velociryx]

Deadlines?

You know firsthand, having repeatedly asked for deadlines, that I don't set them.

I've refused to set them from the start, because we don't work that way.

It might not suit you, but that is, in fact, the lay of the land.

So to answer your question.....none.

I haven't missed any deadlines, because I haven't SET any deadlines.

I see that you're artfully dodging MY questions, however.

I'll make it very simple for you.

You keep saying you have a better vision of what this project could be, and how it should be run.

Perfect.

Sign on.

The job's yours if you will but take it.

Help us.

Be the project lead and marshal us some coding resources to get us across the finish line.

Prove yourself correct.

Or....barring that, at least have the good graces to tell me what (if any) of your prognostications I failed to include in my list, cos of the ones I highlighted earlier, you're batting exactly zero.

So what'll it be?



-=Vel=-

[Velociryx]

I've been working on this project since May 5th, 2002.

That was the date of the very first post in our CB forums here, and seems like a good date to use as the date of the project's inception.

In a couple months, that will make the project four years old.

Four years, and nothing released to the public.

That's what you mean when you say what you say.

But of course, that does not mean that we haven't done anything. In truth, a *tremendous* amount of work has been done, but because we haven't put something in your hands, you don't want to hear about the successes.

In a way, I can't blame you.

You're right.

We set out to deliver a computer game, and we haven't done that yet.

Of course, we ARE still active, and despite the setbacks, we ARE still working.

Add to that the fact that I've said from day one that the game will be finished when it's finished, and have shied away from giving a more specific timetable than that.

And, our little project has had more than its share of mishaps, including losing our first and second code leads, acquiring a third, and then having to suspend payments for the code on account of heart surgery.

So...the project as a whole has seen setbacks, and real life has happened to ALL the volunteers on the project at one point or another.

During the life of the project so far, my own catastrophe list has included:

* Eleven months of unemployment
* Babysitting my neurotic cousin for several months
* Three hospitalizations and near-death experiences
* My house flooding twice
* My grandfather's' death by complications arising from stroke
* My father's suicide
* A pair of nasty car accidents

and several others besides.

If you surmise that the above just might be slightly detrimental to one's focus and creativity, I assure you that you would be correct, and yet....we carried on, because that's what we do.

We're still here, despite all that.

Having said that, perhaps you're right.

Perhaps I'm not the best person to lead us across the finish line.

I've got the persistence for it, but maybe there's something missing.

Something lacking.

Anyway, if you'd like to take a crack at it, you are more than welcome to.

-=Vel=-

[Kinjiru]

He is never going to step up Vel. He is not interesting in helping, or even being creative at all. All he wishes to do is drag you down to his own level of failure.

/ignore TCO
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Aaaaahhhhhhhhhhh, that is so much better. Silence can certainly be golden...

[hexagonian]

One final thought...

TCO
I pity you and anyone who has any sort of social contact with you. Obviously, you have some sort of deficiencies, and it is my hope that you will seek out the professional help you so sorely need.

Help is out there if you just take the time to look...

[TCO]

Vel:

I wish you the best with your health and with rest of your life.

[Velociryx]

Thanks man....and I'm guessing this means you are unable to assist us with the PM work?

If so, I completely understand, and we'll have more to report once we get back to paying a coder.

-=Vel=-

[JustinSane]

I just want to say I've got the utmost admiration for your continuing optimism and creativity and I can't wait for the game to come out. I wish you all the best, as it relates to this project and to life. Ignore jerks.

[Velociryx]

Thanks Justin.

I think that this will probably be the last major project I ever undertake, so as you can imagine, I've got a lot riding on its completion.

That's how I know we'll get there....

-=Vel=-

[fed1943]

"It is easy to critizise from the gallery";I will do that right now:So,you are spending your money,your time,your energy while your health is poor,all that for a free project,and still feel the need to explain that you need your money for taking care of your health?Are you crazy,my friend?
I am happy to see you posting.And don't forget: primum vivere,deinde philosophare.
Ave atque vale,Velociryx

[Velociryx]

Crazy? Probably so, Master Fed.....probably so.

And thank you.

-=Vel=-