The Chiron Chronicle: Discussions (Restart 3)

[[LordLMP]]

I have an idea

since you people are bickering like you actually were in the Planetary Council...

why not create a Planetary Council thread? there, we'll debate, argue, and so on politics in Chiron Chronicles... and vote on stuff and so on. That way, it shouldn't lag the pace of the game thread each player represents the choosing faction and their ideals and so on.

whenever the council makes a decision or whatever, will become official in the game and also announced by our various news groups, if any

should be fun something to do then always write the story or argue player vs player in the discussion where can do it leader vs leader, atleast representives

-LordLMP

[[LordLMP]]

Originally posted by DarkCloud


For Morgan for Planetary Gov.
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University
Hive?
Spartans (helped them, not a lot during the last war)

Against
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Lal
Deidre
Cyborgs

Unknown
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Free Drones (for morgan if trade)
Believers (For morgan if he supports them, but they really don't like his materialistic influences)
Cult of Planet (for Morgan if they support him, but they really don't like his pollution)

(People are allowed to abstain)

For the techs, just copy the techs another faction has, make sure that you have 3-5 less than the Cyborgs and University. Then choose which ones you want to replace some of them. There was a formula (designed by me) but we have elected to ignore it.

The three main candidates is Morgan, Roze and Lal. So the Chiron Alliance is split up vote wise.

I can see the Gaians vote for Lal

Morgan may get Spartans to vote again, but doubt it as they are selling stuff to Cult of Planet...but Morgan would also be offering money again

I can see Morgan definatly getting votes again from University(maybe not) and Hive.

Cyborgs would mostly likely go for Roze, especially with soured relations with the Peacekeepers.

I see the Free Drones voting for Roze, like seriously. Morganites and Drones may share some things, but Free Drones don't like the morganites due to the way they treat their drones, especially if they find out about the Morganites buying "slaves" from Hive. (they would be smuggled) Free Drones have the Pirates concerning distributing their goods and Domai insterated in improving relations. Domai as also have to be careful, with Spartans and Hive has neighbours :P

anyway, each person will vote in the Planetary Council thread once the game starts :P and the main cantidates may have to write a campaign message or whatever not something we should agree on right away in the discussion thread.


-LordLMP

Pirates.... abstain or

[Kassiopeia]

I second LordLMP's suggestion of the PC thread. It's ideal for diplomatic intrigue, which IMO is one of the best aspects of this kind of games.

[[LordLMP]]

current bases coordinates

Pirates:

-Sea Bases

Safe Haven 31, 71 (Middle of Pholus Sea)
Port Svensgaard 32, 86 (South of Pholus Sea)
Provision Point 26, 50 (Mid-North of Pholus Sea)
The Anchorage 29, 29 (Far North of Pholus Sea)
Privateer Quay 65, 77 (West of Unity Sea)
Parrot Landing 70, 84 (North of Geothermal Shallows)
Crow's Nest 75, 91 (East of Geothermal Shallows)
Meergard 69, 95 (South-West of Geothermal Shallows)
Storm's Lee 82, 104 (North-West of Cape Storm)
Cutless Cay 80, 80 (South-East of Unity Sea)
Frigate Base 75, 71 (Middle of Unity Sea)
Barbary Coast 58, 96 (North-West of Mount Planet)
Nessus Base 44, 118 (Middle of Nessus Sea)
Eurytion Base 80, 24 (North-West of Eurytion Bay)
Pennant Shoals 59, 17 (North of New Sargasso)
Sextant Cove 46, 16 (North of Uranium Flats)
Dry Dock 21, 15 (Middle of Great Northern Ocean)
Capetown 127, 17 (West of Great Northern Ocean)
Point Blood 127, 45 (Middle of Chiron Sea)
Lorcha Roads 7, 67 (just South-East of Great Marine Rift)
Drake Landing 0, 80 (Far South of Chiron Sea)
Skeleton Key 117, 87 (North-East of Mnesimache Sea)
Atlantis 49, 103
Aquanox 126, 30
Deep Water 89, 9

-Bases

Deadman Tavern 55, 83 (Middle of Prometheus Straits)
Sailor's Delight 63, 85 (East of Prometheus Straits)
Landlubber Inn 48, 84 (West of Prometheus Straits)
Marque City 35, 15 (Pirate Island)
Pirate's Siege 38, 12 (Pirate Island)
Drunktown 34, 10 (Pirate Island)

-Other

Athen Outpost 111, 19
Prison Island 8, 12

Spartans:

-Bases

Sparta Command 112, 40 (Middle of Sunny Mesa)
Commander's Keep 118, 36
Jannissary Rock 111, 31 (South of Upland Wastes)
Centurion Cave 102, 34 (South-East of Borehole Cluster)
Fort Legion 101, 43
Militia Station 115, 47
Survival Base 109, 49
Assassin's Redoubt 119, 55
War Outpost 110, 60
Defiance Freehold 103, 55
Ironholm 108, 54
Hero's Waypoint 107, 43
Fort Superioty 107, 35
Blast Rifle Crag 116, 28
Bunker 118 81, 11 (Cult of War Base)
Parade Ground 125, 57
Hawk of Chiron 108, 26

-Sea Bases

Fleet Anchorage 122, 40

-Other

Spartan Air Base 124, 58
Spartan Outpost 95, 1

Peacekeepers:

-Bases

U.N. Headquarters 114, 104 (PK Island)
U.N. Social Council 116, 108 (PK Island)
U.N. Equality Village 111, 107 (PK Island)
U.N. Planetary Trust 114, 112 (PK Island)
U.N. Amnesty Town 120, 114 (PK Island)
U.N. Enforcement Base (Old HQ) 111, 75 (South of Great Dunes)
U.N. Criminal Tribunal 116, 78 (South-East of Great Dunes)
U.N. Aid Station 107, 79 (South of Great Dunes)
U.N. Humanity Base 99, 77 (Near Planetneck)
U.N. Disaster Relief 100, 72 (Near Planetneck)
U.N. Data Acquisition 103, 65 (West of Great Dunes)
U.N. Court of Justice 115, 71 (East of Great Dunes)
U.N. Haven City 113, 65 (North-East of Great Dunes)
U.N. Temple of Sol 108, 66

-Sea Bases

U.N. Sea Habitat 86, 112 (just South-East of Cape Storm)
U.N. Independence 89, 121 (South of Cape Storm)
U.N. Port Freedom 100, 116 (South of Mnesimache Sea)
U.N. Marine Agency 103, 103 (Middle of Mnesimache Sea)
U.N. Pearl Harbor 97, 87 (North-West of Mnesimache Sea)
U.N. Coast Guard 107, 87 (North of Mnesimache Sea)
U.N. SeaQuest 112, 96 (North of PK Island)
U.N. Peace Anchorage 123, 101 (North-East of PK Island)
U.N. Port Refuge 125, 119 (South-East of PK Island)
U.N. Ocean Authourity 112, 120 (South-West of PK Island)

Free Drones:

-Bases

Free Drone Central 92, 30
Freedman's Park 93, 25
Hall of Industry 89, 23
Labor Network 96, 22
Miner's Freehold 99, 29 (Middle of Borehole Cluster)
Freedom's Foundry 101, 25
Common Ground 101, 27
Smokestack Hill 95, 35
Liberty Plant 90, 34
Anvil of Man 92, 40
Hammer and Tongs 95, 43
Future's Fulcrum 73, 21 (Isle of Deianira)

-Seabases

Seawork Caverns 86, 28

Hive:

-Bases

The Hive 96, 66
Unity Lair 94, 72
The Colony 89, 69
The Leader's Horde 89, 65 (Monsoon Jungle)
People's Endeavor 84, 64 (Monsoon Jungle)
Sheng-ji Yang Base 82, 58 (Monsoon Jungle)
Communal Nexus 87, 57 (Monsoon Jungle)
Hive Swarm 80, 52 (Monsoon Jungle)
Hole of Aspiration 93, 59
Huddling of People 99, 57
Laborer's Throng 97, 49
Society Grid 93, 53
Social Engineering Den 88, 52
Fecundity Tower 91, 47
Paridise Swarming 84, 46
Chairman's Burrow 82, 40
Deep Passages 90, 76
Factory Maze 92, 80
Discipline Tubes 87, 83
Great Clustering 90, 88
Worker's Nest 86, 92
Unification Cavern 87, 99
The Hive Cluster 89, 107 (Near Cape Storm, hidden. currently not in contact with rest of the Hive Faction)

Cyborgs:

-Bases

Alpha Prime 45, 75
Tau Collective 38, 76
Iota Station 41, 79
Omega Terminus 41, 69
Rho Yards 36, 72
Gamma Heights 45, 67 (West of Garland Crater)
Sigma Complex 42, 62
Psi Consensus 37, 65
Epsilon Center 49, 65 (Middle of Garland Crater)
Eta Crossroads 49, 71 (South of Garland Crater)
Port Beta 54, 68 (East of Garland Crater)
Inspiration Point 59, 65 (South-East of Manifold Nexus, Ex-UoP Base)
Pi Complex 64, 66 (South of Manifold Nexus)

Sea Bases:

(Cyborg Seabase) 40, 86 (Mouth of Hercules)


University:

-Bases

University Base 54, 58
Library of Planet 57, 61
Techopolis 58, 56
Cosmograd 50, 56
University Heights 52, 62 (North-East of Garland Crater)
Research Inspiration 63, 57 (North of Manifold Nexus)
Outpost #1 67, 59 (East of Manifold Nexus)
Zarya-Sunrise 71, 65
Mir Lab 65, 53
Baikonur 64, 46
Monitoring Station 60, 48
Rocky Crag 54, 72 (mostly underground in mountain, in Cyborg lands)
Memorial Caverns 53, 75 (mostly underground in mountain, in Cyborg lands)

Data Angels:

-Bases

Data DeCentral 60, 42
Roze Function 54, 40
Googleplex 56, 36
Alphaville 52, 34
Safe House City 50, 38
Nettap Complex 50, 44
Newer Ciba City 52, 48
Trojan Source 47, 53
Moonshadow 47, 47
Ferrett's Lair 43, 49
Coder's Pit 45, 43
Shadow Sprawl 45, 37
The Sprawl 68, 24 (Isle of Deianira)

-Seabases

Atlantisville 74, 54
Deep Sea Nine 77, 45
Conshelf 57 68, 42
Calypso Beat 72, 34
Garden of Fishes 64, 36 (New Sargasso)
Tears in Rain 66, 28 (New Sargasso)
Great Lagoon 60, 30 (New Sargasso)
Sea Craddle 53, 29

Morgan Industries:

-Bases

Morgan Industries 36, 58
Morgan Trade Center 44, 58
Morgan Entertainment 41, 53
Morgan Processing 35, 51
Morgan Transport 31, 47
Morgan Bank 40, 46 (Captured by Data Angels)
Morgan Distribution 35, 41
Morgan Mines 40, 38 (Uranium Flats)
Morgan Solarfex 36, 36 (Uranium Flats)
Morgan Energy Monopoly 36, 30 (Uranium Flats)
Morgan Antimatter 42, 32 (Uranium Flats)
Morgan Aerodynamics 47, 33 (East of Uranium Flats)
Morgan Exploration 55, 11 (Isle of Deianira)

Gaians:

-Bases

Gaia's Landing 9, 41
Gaia's High Garden 8, 34
Thorny Vineyard 5, 29
Chiron Preserve 10, 26
Song of Planet 14, 32 (Middle of The Ruins)
Garden Paridise 21, 25
Blackroot Palace 22, 34
Greenhouse Gate 21, 39
Children of Earth 15, 39
Forest Primeval 19, 43
Lily of the Valley 15, 45
Silverbird Park 10, 46
Razorbeak Wood 11, 51
Vale of Winds 18, 50

Cult:

-Bases

Dawn of Planet 24, 62
Locust Haven 16, 64 (Middle of Pholus Ridge)
Chiron Stigmata 13, 59 (North-West of Pholus Ridge)
Worm's Lair 13, 73 (Southern edge of Pholus Ridge)
Invictus 13, 79 (between Pholus Ridge and Unity Wreckage)
Trial By Fire 20, 68 (East of Pholus Ridge)
Virgin Planet 19, 59
Spore Runner Sanctum 13, 85 (Just north of Unity Wreckage)
Province Xeno 12, 66
Worship of Planet 15, 53
Nest of Fear 23, 83

-Sea Bases

Deep Isle Shoals 6, 76 (south of Great Marine Rift, hidden in Fungus)

Believers:

-Bases

New Jerusalem 23, 111
Noah's Rainbow 22, 116
The Lord's Chosen 16, 116
Sanctity Base 13, 119
New Eden 9, 117
The Coming of the Lord 12, 112
Godwinson's Hope 15, 109
Time of Salvation 7, 109
Great Conclave 11, 105
Judgement Seat 10, 98
Great Zion 3, 103
Redemption Base 6, 94
Far Jericho 13, 93
The Lord's Mercy 20, 90
The Lord's Truth 24, 94
Blessed Saviour 23, 99
The Voice of God 21, 105
The Lord's Grace 27, 105
House of Martyrs 30, 110
Throne of God 34, 106
Valley of the Faithful 31, 101
Divinity Base 29, 97
Hallowed Ground 35, 99
Terrible Swift Sword 41, 101
The Lord's Gift 41, 93
Righteous Sentence 54, 88

-Seabases

He Walked on Water 28, 122 (Sea of Nessus, East of Howling Straits)

Other:

Planetary Council Base 65, 89 (Neutral base, where the Planetary Council and Planetary Stock Exchange are located)

Borehole Cluster 98, 30 (Add-on/Corssfire Landmark)
Manifold Nexus 63, 61 (Crossfire Landmark)
Fossil Field Ridge 120, 66 (Crossfire Landmark, mineral bonus)
Unity Wreckage 12, 88 (north west of Freshwater Sea)

[[LordLMP]]

Okay, there is the coordinates of bases, outposts, crossfire landmarks and etc... Maps sent to all the players (which i hope i got the emails right)...aswell copy pasted the coordinates :P
i forgot to put a subject on the email too, so no viruses (but do scan anyway)

So far, only the Pirates, Spartans and Cult is taken care of concerning having new bases. I gave the peacekeepers back their temple of sol... maybe the pks rebuilt the base from the ruins... base was destroyed in the first Spartan War. And by having it back, PKs got the middle of the defence line covered.

So i suggest we take care of the bases, then me post history of pirates aswell as any other factions that hasn't done so. Then we agree or not with the current history, then we can start

-LordLMP

[Kassiopeia]

Message received succesfully, Lord
Now if you'll excuse me, I have some reading, writing and viewing to do.

[Guardian]

Originally posted by [LordLMP]
Cult and Believer borders don't actually touch each other, so there is a open neutral zone in between.

Well, duh!
Okay... well, then the Peacekeepers would definitely be hanging out in this neutral zone, not in anyone's territory (although they would still be tromping back and forth across the borders escorting aid convoys and stuff like that...)

Guess I should have a look at the map and figure things out before I write more about this...

Originally posted by [LordLMP]
why not create a Planetary Council thread?

Excellent idea! When can we start?

Oh, and as for the other stuff... I'll get my bases/map stuff sorted out within another day or two.

[Argonaut]

I think the Planetary Council thread is a great idea too. It will stop delayed votes from slowing down the game thread. Brilliant plan.

And if people don't object, I'd like to get Roze's campaign underway. I've got a few ideas that won't conflict with any gameplay.

By the way, "Morgan Bank" has been officially renamed "Data Bank" (those crazy hacker's and their cheezy puns). As for bases, perhaps just a couple more sea bases (just size one, no major expansion) somewhere in the north? The Angel will have been focusing on perfecting what they've got and upgrading their military.

[Guardian]

Originally posted by [LordLMP]
Cyborgs would mostly likely go for Roze, especially with soured relations with the Peacekeepers.

You're probably right, although we might not be all that sour anymore. I imagine the Data Angels might have done something by now to try to get us all back on a sound footing. After all, they wouldn't want two of their best friends stay mad at each other forever and sour the mood in the entire alliance, would they?

Of course, this is Argonaut's turf, but... well, you know, we Peacekeepers were pretty pissed off back there and Aki's explanation didn't help much, but if our good friends the Angels tried to talk to us about it all, we would definitely listen...

[Argonaut]

Of course, with you two not talking to each other, that means you'd probably have to come through me for a great deal of exchanges. This could be far more profitable than investing time and effort into making you two friends again. As long as the Alliance isn't threatened......

But then, Roze would never do something that manipulative

[Argonaut]

Sorry, I forgot to mention something to Lord LMP. Assuming you're not way ahead of me with the map, I'd like to specify two new Angel bases.

One is Gibson Base at (66,18) on the Isle of Deianira, a little NorthWest of The Sprawl....we need to prevent too much Morganite expansion

The other is Tinker Junction (75,61) just south of Atlantisville (it's a seabase). It'll serve as a bit of a buffer protecting our most valuable sea base once it's population gets going and infrastructure can be improved.

[Guardian]

Originally posted by Argonaut
Of course, with you two not talking to each other, that means you'd probably have to come through me for a great deal of exchanges. This could be far more profitable than investing time and effort into making you two friends again. As long as the Alliance isn't threatened......

But then, Roze would never do something that manipulative

Heh... right... (Don't get me started... )

Anyway, I never said we wouldn't talk to the Cyborgs, but yeah, I guess you would be getting some extra attention from us both this way. -And I guess being friends with the Peacekeepers doesn't mean you'll always act like them.

Just don't cross into too many gray areas, okay?

[[LordLMP]]

Planetary Council thread will start when the game starts. And doesn't have to be completly serious...could be a bit entertaining

Argonaut - 4 bases in total or just Gibson and Tinker?

Will go and do my Pirate history and there some events/incidents i want the pirates to be involved in... like a Cult/Believer naval battle not to far from a pirate seabase.... Nessus Sea incident with the believers...the Pirate protest near Fleet Anchorage and a few skirmishs concerning territorial waters :P (Pirates are quite territorial...not as much towards Data Angels, Free Drones, Cyborgs, Gaians, Peacekeepers and sometimes the cult. but will still a good watch :P), Deneiara War (lasted to long to be considered a incident, but ain't a official war either), Pirate beachhead evacuation of Kane's forces, incidents concerning Morgan Air and Naval transports shipping stuff to cult when they started, Pirates started cracking down on human slave smuggling from hive to morganites/university, pirates harassing Hive transports going to Believer territory, some problems with the Spartans concerning the Athen Outpost, cold war thing with the Spartans...meaning a covert war :P, etc

Svensgaard is not very active in the Planetary Council, except when the council is focusing on them about somethings...mainly does devil advocate type comments.

Both the Spartans and the Pirates have Power values, and have similar beliefs on somethings. both populaces may get along easily and have their interesting bar fights (some good ones at Blast Rifle Crag, one or two at the Planetary Council Base, a big one at Morgan Industries during the Global Trade Summit, etc) But government wise, don't trusts each other.
Svensgaard was happier to have Santiego back as leader has he didn't like Kessel.

-LordLMP

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by [LordLMP]
Svensgaard was happier to have Santiego back as leader has he didn't like Kessel.

I think it would be safe to say that Kessel didn't much like Sven either. But Kessel still plays an important role in Spartan affairs.

Got the map Now I'm just waiting to get things rolling. Are we going to start the Planetary Council thread before the game. Maybe get going on the election part of it anyway. Spartans would like to bring some things up for consideration. Are we sticking to the one issue per 20 years or is it a little more informal than that?

[Mr. President]

I've received the map file, but haven't been able to download it because the only computer at my house that's connected to the Internet is a piece of junk. By Monday (Australian time) I should have it. In the meantime, I'll try and build it from scratch (using Alpha Centauri original - a pox on the weak Australian economy!).

Planetary Council thread is a good idea, and I certainly hope we're NOT only having one issue every twenty years. Sorry I seem to have missed so much. Even without the map, I'm willing to begin anytime.

As to business, let me just pose the question to all leaders as to who they want as Governor: a man with a proven record of success in business and other legitimate activities, a woman whose most notable pre-Unity achievement was being tried for computer hacking by a U.N. tribunal, or a man whose idealism is not matched by his energy (save when it involves other people's countries).

As soon as time and security permits, I would also like to start thinking about salvaging whatever we can from the Unity Wreckage. The fusion core and computer systems could prove invaluable to commerce and research, especially in the areas of aeronautics and spaceflight.

LordLMP and all other writers, thank you very much for all the work you've put into this game. I sincerely hope I can do justice to the marvellous setup.