The Chiron Chronicle: Discussions (Restart 3)

[Cyber]

Kass, you´ve done a great job with the Admin post.
I think I´ll join your "goofing around"
The Cult has probably previously ask the help from the planetary council, but to no avail...

Open Message
From: Prophet Cha Dawn
To: Planetary Council

Don´t you people know anything else except quarreling for power? Can´t you see, or do you even care what is happening on the western continent?
17 years ago, as you know, the Believers launched their third crusade. And as the two previous, without any provocation from our side. This is a pure genocide war, the d*mn fanatics wan´t us dead because we don´t believe in their God, and honor the native life as much as human life. We have seen whole generations of humans and mindworms being devoured by this Endless War, so please, help us stop this genocide.
We are not monsters, do not believe the lies of our enemies. The truth is, we value native life as much earth-based life. But we, the humans, are quilty here. Humanity came here on this planet like a plaque and started plundering it, destroying the native life and its home. Our enemies hate us because we are willing to sacrifise our lives for this nature, because they don´t understand it. They only want to destroy it. So we give the native life an equality, and we do not try to make everyone else follow the same rules as we do. Our first war operation on foreign ground was when we sent troops to the eastern continent, to help the peacekeepers. And that was all, we haven´t attacked anyone, but we have been always a target of aggression from various factions, and only because our ideologies are so different...

[Kassiopeia]

Whoa! I think though that I'll save my diplomatic shots for the game
Or maybe not.
Anyway, Natan is missing a lot

[Guardian]

The Peacekeepers will definitely pick up on some of the stuff in Cha Dawn's message, but I unfortunately don't have time to post it right now... (Back later...)

[Kassiopeia]

Originally posted by Guardian
The Peacekeepers will definitely pick up on some of the stuff in Cha Dawn's message, but I unfortunately don't have time to post it right now... (Back later...)

That sounds like a certain anonymous humanitarian organization is going to take sides?

[Guardian]

That's a negative at this time, but we WILL agree with them that you have no right to exterminate them just for being different and call for you Believers to explain your position... (hopefully you will have a different explanation for the current crusade...)

[DarkCloud]

Well... since everything is decided. How about we start tomorrow at 1200?
Is LMP ok with that?

[Sprayber]

If I remeber it correctly, the cult of planet attacked the Spartans because they were polluters. They only came to the Eastern continent to take advantage of the Spartan-Alliance war. Now the Spartans have long memories. No peace was ever signed with the cult. So therefore the Spartans will do whatever it takes to run the COP into the ground and have cha dawn in a Believer punishment sphere. Go back and read some of Blake's old Cult posts.

[Kassiopeia]

Is that 12:00 GMT or EST? And I still need LordLMP to authorize my new bases.
Is it necessary to be online exactly when the game starts?

What comes to the explanation of the current crusade...

General Message
From: Sister Miriam Godwinson
To: Commissioner Pravin Lal
Subject: The Third Crusade

First of all, I would like to correct some prejudice the name of our current campaign has brought up. Unlike it's predecessors this Crusade is not an ideological campaign. Our interests are merely self-preserving.
You, Commissioner, might consider "provocation" as a situation where a military unit of faction A intrudes the territory of faction B, or some other act of such nature.
The provocation of Cult of Planet was more of a subtle version, one which even the keen eye of our current Planetary Governor does not seem to identify.
First of all, the Believer bases are known for their intolerance and, I dare say, weakness against attacks made by native lifeforms.
I would like to ask you, Commissioner, to add up some matters.

One: Cult of Planet, familiar and able with native-life at utmost extent.

Two: A faction dispised by planetary dignitaries as it's neighbour.

Three: Cha Dawn's old hate for Crusades, which I think weren't so necessary.

Four: "Strangely" increased activity of mind worms and spore launchers at Far Jericho and other bases near Cult border.

With some "fuzzy" math, everyone can find the result. I find your definitions of "provocation" somewhat amusing, Commissioner.
I urge you to withdraw from the area between the borderlines at the Western Continent, and let two independent factions solve their matters alone.

God Bless You.

[Guardian]

General Message
From: Commissioner Pravin Lal
To: Sister Miriam Godwinson
Cc: Planetary Council
Subject: The Third Crusade

So, in other words, the Believers felt provoked in that they were repeatedly attacked by native life forms and suspected Cult involvement.

Well, IF this was the Cult's doing, it would certainly be a provocation.
You have provided a definition of a "provocation" as a situation where a military unit of faction A intrudes the territory of faction B, or some other act of such nature. Now, I do not know where you got this definition from, as it certainly wasn't from me, but as you can see, the situation you describe would be a provocation according to this definition. (Hence, I am somewhat perplexed by your appearent opposition to the definition...)

If the Cult was indeed behind such attacks in Believers' territory, then even the Peacekeepers will acknowledge that the Believers have been justified in taking appropriate action to defend themselves. However, an endless war like the one we're seeing here is not an appropriate action. While I agree that this matter is for the two of you to settle between the two of you, I must insist that you find some other way to settle it. When the U.N. is satisfied that the matter has been resolved and that the civilians we are currently protecting are no longer in danger, then we will withdraw our forces. Whether that will be next year or a hundred years from now is not within my powers to decide.

Thank you for sharing your views with us, sister.
My own view should come as no surprise, but I will state it anyway: after 17 years of war and with still no resolution in sight, I do believe the time is ripe for trying a different approach. Accordingly, I call upon you both to immediately end hostilities and initiate peace talks. The sooner you can get this matter resolved in a civilized manner, the sooner the Peacekeeping Forces will leave your borders.

[DarkCloud]

Its 12:00 Apolyton Time... It might start a little before or after, however, It won't start until LMP authorizes your new bases...

No you do not have to be online when the game starts, that would be a cruel rule

Anyways, within about 2 days, SMAC Fanatic should return and be able to play the Believers.

Zakaharov
Note to All

The technologies that everyone except our faction and the Cyborg's possess are inferior. We each have 1 better technology, and possibly 2 better technologies.

Thus you should all bow to Zakharov as your leader because intelligence is an important quality in a Planetary Governor.

[Sprayber]

Is everyone running for PG?



Santiago wasn't interested in running at first. But some factions have contacted her privatly and she is considering the option. Just in case she does enter as a last minute candidate, you should know that a vote for Santiago would be a vote for stability. She would make sure that the council refrains from intruding on the internal affairs of the individual faction.

Santiago-For the independent minded faction.




*Paid For By : The Friends of Santiago*

[[LordLMP]]

You'll get your bases kass, same with Argonaut's. will also provide extra bases for the Free Drones.

Can start the Planetary Council thread atleast and then the Game thread day afterthat.
If SMAC Fanatic don't come back soon, will provide extra bases for the Gaians and Cyborgs in base in my opinion

So, before we start the game, is everyone okay with the histories? summaries? who has what for secret projects? etc?



every leader is a candidate technicly, but the main ones, the leaders seriously pushing for it, is Morgan, Roze and Lal.

Svensgaard isn't interested being Planetary Governor as he is to busy leading his own faction then watching over the bloody world :P so will be a big Doh! reaction if he gets voted to be Planetary Governor for some reason :P

As for voting system, will refigure it out, how many votes each faction as, etc....... I know that the Hive, Believers, Peacekeepers are the three big ones in votes. Most of the factions will have about the same amount of votes and the Cult the smallest amount :P due to pop wise, especially with this endless war going on :P

[Sprayber]

A simple way would be to have it break down along these lines

Level 1 Population(small faction)= 1 vote
Level 2 Population(medium faction)=2 votes
Level 3 Population(large faction)=3 votes

+1 or 2 for Empath Guild
+1 or 2 for UN (It's in the game anyway)

Level 1 Factions

Cult of Planet
Cyborgs (maybe level 2)

Level 2 Factions
Spartans
Pirates
Data Angels
University (maybe level 1)
Morgan
Drone
Gaians

Level 3 Factions
Peecekeepers
Hive
Believers


This is just a suggestion.

[Kassiopeia]

Okay, I will modify my Admin ASAP.
Sprayber: I'l start doing my math...

Its 12:00 Apolyton Time...

That is GMT methinks.

BTW do Believers have any SP's? Should they have any SP's?
And Deirdre has the Empath Guild, correct?

[[LordLMP]]

Thinking more of breaking it down in five levels.

Level 5: Hive, Believers, Peacekeepers
Level 4: Pirates, Free Drones, Spartans
Level 3: Data Angels, University, Morgan
Level 2: Gaians, Cyborgs
Level 1: Cult of Planet

Pk Vote bonus: 2

Empath Guild bonus: 2

Longivity Vaccine bonus: 1 (why not? :P)

maybe a bonus vote for how many landmarks a faction controls? which is a average of one atleast per faction.

or a bonus for whatever field your number one at? Economy would be Morgan, Industry would be Free Drones, Probe to Angels, Ecology to Gaians, etc.... ? I will tally all the votes, so don't worry by being complicated :P

and so on.


Either that or votes is the equal amount of bases a faction have....but that would encourage Expansionism, which would lead to war soon or later.




Yes, PKs would have the most votes by themselves, but is still possible to beat them., as CEO Morgan proved last election.


Believers could have a SP, but which, hmmmm Believers not very high on the tech tree either.

Gaians have Weather Paradigm, Empath Guild, Pholus Mutagen, Second Xenoempathy dome.

Cult has: Xenoempathy Dome

Peacekeepers: Second Command Nexus

MOrgan: Merchant Exchange, Planetary Energy Grid

Pirates: Marinetime Control Center

Spartans: Second Weather Paradigm, Command Nexus

University: Human Genome Project?, Longivity Vaccine?, Planetary Datalinks?

Hive: Ascetic Virtues, Cyborg Factory(near completion)

Data Angels: Virtual World, Citizen's Defence Force, Hunter-Seeker Algorithm(joint with Cyborgs)

Cyborgs: Hunter-Seeker Algorithm(joint with angels), possibly working on Cyborg Factory or something else?

Believers: Theres the Planetary Transit System which could be nearing completion....or finished, past few years.

Free Drones: Cloudbase Academy



Can also invent a SP, with valid prequisite and bonuses.
Maybe some pop morale/police bonus?

Cult of Planet could have the Second Citizen's Defence Force...atleast tempory for the duration of the war?


-LordLMP