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  • #61
    Well, it DID leave a big arse black mark on the Spartans' reputation at first, but gradually it became clear that this was the act of a small group of criminals, and so couldn't be blamed on "Spartans" in general. Kessel somehow managed to convince the Peacekeepers of this during the negotiations back in 2183 and as a result they dropped their demands for reparations. The Peacekeepers also dropped their claims for economic compensation for damage done at Data Acquisition because the Spartan troops actually repaired most of it themselves while they were cooped up inside the base.
    "Politics is to say you are going to do one thing while you're actually planning to do someting else - and then you do neither."
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    • #62
      No Problem Here

      I have no problem at all with what you two are suggesting.

      But I suspect that Sparta and the UN will have some problems with the Believer Cult war. Sparta will want the war to continue. They won't say that of course, but that is what they will mean.
      Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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      • #63
        Are we going to see any movement soon? I guess everyone is stocking up on the creative juices.
        Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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        • #64
          Well... it would be good to use common sense for techs- but I think we should use a formula, just take your pick from the ones I listed earlier, please.

          How about we start within tommorrow? Does that sound good?
          It should be enough time to get every topic under control.

          Okay-
          University
          Gaians
          Cyborgs

          get research bonuses of 2 techs apiece (level 1-4) or 1 level 5 tech.
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          • #65
            Guardian-Don't forget to write something about Weiss.
            Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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            • #66
              How can we start with no proper history of what happened in the past 17 years? aswell as properly modifying the whole history too? For Example, how are things different in University, especially when the Data Angels would never of had a garrison force at the Manifold Nexus if we remove the Sentient PLayable PLanetmind factor? I would think University would take control of the place...in a way, giving them an advantage against mindworms, control mindworms, etc... making them a bit stronger military wise during the Second University War. Also, wasn't Zhakarov's sentence 30 years than 60?

              What the question who is the Planetary Governor? or have the election in the beginning of the reset?

              who won the election in 2190? thinking to have someone different than Lal for a change and twist in the story....thinking to have Morgan being elected...where he was able to encourage global trade and establish a PLanetary Stock Exchange, etc....

              what are going to be the important details of the Deiameras War? ...except for an automated comm message to the Proginator's homeworld from the alien center? Mainly could leave the War entirely an mystery, unofficial and conspirational....but some things must of happened to influence some relations, shift in agendas, some minor improvements in some research, etc....

              Bit more details on the Believer-Cult War? like the Main players, neutral players and the influence players?
              Like, Spartans in a way support the believers in their war against the Cult, Morganites sells stuff to the Cult, University mayhelp the Cult mainly to acquire some of their advance green techs, mainly concerning mindworms, Gaians would be neutral, but could be considered as observers by sending some probes or small units to see what is happening, Peacekeepers gets involve by being Peacekeepers, by getting in the way of both factions...which the believers responds to it a bit badly while cult considers it a diversion to the believers, incident happens between the Pirates and Believers in Nessus sea....and some naval happenings in Chiron Sea between the Cult IoDs and Believer ships, where Pk ships trying to stop it and Pirates nosing about....

              After signing peace with the Pks, where most of the Chiron Alliance does the same with spartans...of course, except the Pirates which they get more flack from rest of the Alliance...spartans start making plans to expand into the sea, which the pirates don't like and don't want the spartans to start gaining power in the sea.... so you can say we have a cold war thing happening between the Spartans and Pirates, where the PKs put their nose in once in the while during some various incidents like when the Spartans establish its first Seabase, which the Pirate were willing to go in and take it, or destroy it while eliminating as much of the Spartan navy, or steal....where pirates hijacked some spartan ships, where spartans done somethings towards the pirates, incident about the Athen Outpost which the pirates establish in the upland wastes, bunch of Probe Actions against one and other like where the Spartans narrowly succeeded in stealing Doctrine: Initiative, etc........

              So, before we play, suggest that people right thei factions mini histories in the History/Summary Thread please from 2120 or sooner to 2200. from 2118 to 2183, some history changes are going to be made....


              and for Research, common sence as formulas will either be to slow or to fast with the games irregular pace.

              Orbital Spaceflight to the Cyborgs and University while it is being researched or whatever by the Pirates, PKs, possibly Spartans, Free Drones, Gaians, Data Angels, and Morganites....

              Cyborgs and University will be quite close to Fusion Power/Fusion Lasers....

              Gaians and Cult have quite advance Green techs...

              Chaos Weaponry starting to be used by Pirates, Cyborgs, Pks, Spartans, University, and Data Angels....

              Morganites and Free Drones have strong Building techs...

              Silksteel being used by Chiron Alliance, University, spartans starting too along with the Morganites...

              so there is an idea as to some tech levels......

              I will do summaries for factions not being played by a player.

              -LordLMP

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              • #67
                Well, LMP, the University has been demilitarizing and disbanding troops, focusing on research for better weapons instead of maintaining an army.

                I do not think we should eliminate Planetmind completely, I think we should just have Planet 'go to sleep' for a while; if we get too many players then Planetmind could awaken?

                Zakharov's sentence? He was out of prison in 2180, and assumed control for a year, and was given 2 years grace period, but an election had to happen every 10 years, so the Elite University Researchers voted him out and Elaine in. Elaine was indited in scandals relating to an 'anarchist group' (Perfect Society) and Zakharov won in 2190. She was imprisoned in 2191 along with several other Perfect Society members.

                I think that Morgan would have had a hard time being elected, what with the free trade scandals and his breaking apart of monopolies (this limits the Perfect Society in his country)... However, the other factions would like that.
                Zakharov would vote for him because he would want the Perfect Society to fail and suspects that they are active in Morgan's territory.

                If the University helps the Cult, they will only do it if they get something in return. I feel that the Morganites will do likewise.
                Unless the Cyborgs help the Believers, in which case the University would help the Cult.

                I think the Spartans would support the Cult because they do not like the Peacekeepers... Frankly, I think the spartans will just try to keep the war going.

                PK's try to stop the war, take no sides.

                Data Angels, not much, though I think they might sell information to the highest bidder.
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                • #68
                  The Spartans are interested in keeping the war going to do as much damage to the cult of planet as possible. They still hold a grudge against them and will help the believers, within reason, as long as they choose to fight the cult. Don't get me wrong. The Spartans aren't in love with the Believers. They just see this as an opportunity to bleed the COP for as long as possible. They will also help the Believers diplomaticly as long as it is possible.
                  Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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                  • #69
                    --I hate those probe teams leaving dps--
                    Last edited by Sprayber; August 2, 2001, 18:32.
                    Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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                    • #70
                      Hey again!

                      This is just another short note to say that I'm coming home from my rather lengthy vacation this weekend and that I'll get to work on my part of this as soon as I'm done dealing with jet lag 'n stuff like that... I might not get it all done Sunday night as I have to go to work monday morning, but... well, I'll "see" you all again soon!
                      "Politics is to say you are going to do one thing while you're actually planning to do someting else - and then you do neither."
                      -- Saddam Hussein

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                      • #71
                        Well, I'm off on holiday until the fourth of August. Have fun, and keep a place open for me when I get back.
                        "Love the earth and sun and animals, despise riches, give alms to every one that asks, stand up for the stupid and crazy, devote your income and labor to others, hate tyrants, argue not concerning God, have patience and indulgence toward the people, take off your hat to nothing known or unknown . . . reexamine all you have been told at school or church or in any book, dismiss whatever insults your own soul, and your very flesh shall be a great poem and have the richest fluency" - Walt Whitman

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                        • #72
                          Should we start now?
                          I'll write up the Morganites when LMP posts the other non-player controlled faction histories... but there is such a thing as taking too long to organize something...

                          SMAC Fanatic- have a good vacation
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                          • #73
                            Yes, but starting unprepared ain't good either. rather that we all agree in the history, settings, summaries, etc... else we will end up having another argument and then Chiron Chronicles will fall apart. Besides, summer and people on vacation, etc.... so better wait a bit.


                            -LordLMP

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by [LordLMP]
                              Yes, but starting unprepared ain't good either. rather that we all agree in the history, settings, summaries, etc... else we will end up having another argument and then Chiron Chronicles will fall apart. Besides, summer and people on vacation, etc.... so better wait a bit.


                              -LordLMP
                              I agree that we all should be in agreement.

                              Seriously, we should a have a history that is set in stone before we start getting into the story.
                              Which side are we on? We're on the side of the demons, Chief. We are evil men in the gardens of paradise, sent by the forces of death to spread devastation and destruction wherever we go. I'm surprised you didn't know that. --Saul Tigh

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                              • #75
                                Okay. I understand. Anyways, I suppose it wouldn't be good to start without SMAC Fanatic.
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