The Chiron Chronicle: Discussions (Restart 3)

[Kassiopeia]

I have SMAX

Why did the B's and the PC start the war in the first place? Territorial dispute, fundamentalist issues, someone influenced antoher/both? Lack of sheer action

The Believing fanaticism is their best military asset. That negates any moral problems (not experience problems). So the PC soldiers won't see much Believing neck that hasn't been pierced with gatling laser fire

This war is, with direct contact being rare, a spiritual war. The PC's cannot use probe teams against B:s, right? And the Spartan pact would be useful, at least to gain up-to-date tech. Of course, that would put pressure on the Spartans = to the PK's. That would in the future mean that the Chiron Alliance could possibly, if PC pressures them enough (Appeal to Deirdre, similar ideals - Zakharov, mortal enemy of Believers), attack the Believers, which wouldn't be so good for Miriam. Thinking it that deep, I see a slight risk in allying with the Spartans.

[Natan]

Also, Yang is a dirty demon, and therefore would probably play tricks like offering assistance to the Believers if they used their superior probe teams to steal technology and give it to him. That way, he doesn't get blamed for stealing it.

[Kassiopeia]

Is Hive a part of the Chiron Alliance? If not, then that sounds like a plan. Put if not, then if revealed, the Believers might get their a** kicked byt the Alliance.
What is the level of integrity amongst the alliance members?
And actually the assistance of Hive would be big, but why wouldn't the Hive just declare war on them and rip the techs himself?

[Sprayber]

Spartans really don't care for the Belivers. It's that they hate the cult of planet. It wouldn't necessarly be a pact, just a loose partnership for the purpose of destroying the COP. Sparta and the Hive have a similar thing going against the Alliance. Both of them see the Alliance as the threat and have put aside past differences. As for what the Hive does, that is up to the Hive. I would think the alliance would be upset with the Spartans for giving techs to the Believers but I wouldn't think they would actually intervene unless the Believers attack the Gians. The Spartans warned the Believers to focus on the COP and not the Gians when it started. This was done to prevent the alliance from interfering. They aren't allied with the COP, and I don't think they would becuase of their type of government. Not even the the Gians would go that far. I don't think. Sparta won't send troops to your continent.

[[LordLMP]]

Originally posted by Sprayber
LMP-Before we decided to advance the game, the Spartans were about to give the Believers Missle technology to fight the cult. Spartans also provided intelligence files on the then updated cult military. Spartans never agreed to any peace with the cult and it's probably safe to believe that the Spartans wants the Believers to destroy the cult of planet. There were no intentions to send troops, but would have provided whatever techs necessary to defeat cult of planet. Spartans also view the Believers as a potential ally in that region. This of course depends on how much the believers are interested in such a partnership. This would be less than a Pact of course.

Yes, but doubt the believers got the tech in time to start upgrading their crusade army before sending it in their first push, else the attack would be delayed even longer, giving the Cult more time to prepare.... They could also acquire Air Power and started building an air force during the war. Cult would get Air Power aswell, but would end up with a smaller Air Force due to crappier industry.... Also, Spartans only have data on the cult at the defence lines during the second spartan war and no infiltration into cult, so will not provide any info that would make a big difference.
Anyway, all the details of the war will be up to kass and cyber.

Was also thinking to have that Nessus Sea incident between the believers and pirates....friction happening there.

[[LordLMP]]

Chiron Alliance is strickly a Economical and Military Alliance, so it ain't exactly NATO like. The only they seriously share at the moment is the naval ship registry. Faction will only help another if they are in trouble military wise.

Anyway, details of its creation and relations i will do in a moment, along with the general timeline. relations could be change to fit for the reset.

and i will send map to Kass after that......who else wants it? Temple of War may change its name, if Sprayber wants.



Cult is a Police State according to blake, but they seem more Fundamentalist, buit different beliefs compare to the belivers.

Believers don't like the Cult because they consider them as evil, say cult worship the devil, corrupts(converts) some Believers, and so on. Believers tried eradicating them since the early years. First Crusade done some damage to the Cult, but were still defeated due to mindworms and to much fungus to fight in.
Second Crusade got defeated and agreed to a uneasy treaty... third crusade, current war, believers got annoyed that the Cult expanded, and their military getting bigger too, and closer to believer territory. So enough excuse to declare war on the Cult. Believers don't share any borders with the Gaians, so never had any positive or negaive relations with them, and barely had any contact. Believers would be Probe immuned...well, mostly... in CC, it is still possible, but very very hard.

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by [LordLMP]
and i will send map to Kass after that......who else wants it? Temple of War may change its name, if Sprayber wants.

That would be good. How about Bunker 118? And Fleet Anchorage as the Spartan sea base. I would also like a map if you don't mind. I have one but would like the updated version.

[Kassiopeia]

Hmmm... If Hive nor the Spartans belong to the Alliance, and since it isn't as strict as NATO...
Then pacting with them would be recommendable. We are to get started soon, right?
I'll be much wiser after a glance at the map.

[Argonaut]

I wouldn't mind a copy of the map if you could Lord LMP. I've only got my personal map of the Chiron Continent.

[Sprayber]

When are we going to start this? I know Guardian is still MIA but I'm sure he will show up pretty soon. Oh well, I'll be waiting. Maybe I should use this time to start my story. HMMMM. I'm enjoying your story Kas. Keep up the good work


About the Spartans and Hive. Yeah, neither is in the alliance. Both have a "strategic partnership" In which Spartan advisors trained the Hive in the arts of war and the Hive trained Sparta to be more efficient in their industry. We were once in the Apex Alliance together just before the war started. I don't know if the Hive would be interested in a pact, but I'm sure Yang would enjoy maybe ticking off the Alliance by giving various things to the Believers. Of course I would think that Miriam and Yang would never get too cozy. Perhaps with the Spartans as mediators, some kind of arragement could be made.

[Kassiopeia]

Yeah, when are we gonna start this. I need the map though.
Thanks for the comments Sprayber. Excluding my own views, it has been viewed 37 times
Of course, when I update it at present, it drags up the numbers, but at least ten people have at least read some of it

[Sprayber]

LMP--Who all was involved in the war on Denaria? Maybe we chould have it to where the cult of war partisipated somehow without official Spartan approval and was punished for it. Hence the name change of Temple of war to Bunker 118. I have other ideas. Dicuss...

[Argonaut]

I like to stir **** up so...

Re: War on Denairia

How about the Angels and Pirates not necessarily fighting on the same side? I thought it could be cool if it was a sort of covert war, where no faction government wanted to say anything about the fighting, lest others find out about the alien centre. So, there would be small commando groups "operating without the knowledge or consent of this faction's government" idea. Sort of a no-holds bar, grab what you can and screw everyone else kind of idea. The Chiron Alliance would still be intact, because officially there was no war. But Roze would know, and Svensgaard would know to create some tension there. At the same time they know that the Chiron Alliance comes with a lot of privelages right now, so neither one wants to mess it up.

Just my rantings to contribute to the discussion. Hope some of it made sense, and I realize this only applies to two of the multiple factions involved.

OOh, what if the Angel teamed cooperated with the neighbouring Free Drone team, instead of the Pirates? That would piss off Svensgaard as he's been buttering up Domai for a long time.

Okay, rant over. Gonna go to bed now.

[[LordLMP]]

Originally posted by Sprayber
LMP--Who all was involved in the war on Denaria? Maybe we chould have it to where the cult of war partisipated somehow without official Spartan approval and was punished for it. Hence the name change of Temple of war to Bunker 118. I have other ideas. Dicuss...

Sure, if you choose that they ever existed to be eliminated

-LordLMP

[[LordLMP]]

Re: I like to stir **** up so...

Originally posted by Argonaut
Re: War on Denairia

How about the Angels and Pirates not necessarily fighting on the same side? I thought it could be cool if it was a sort of covert war, where no faction government wanted to say anything about the fighting, lest others find out about the alien centre. So, there would be small commando groups "operating without the knowledge or consent of this faction's government" idea. Sort of a no-holds bar, grab what you can and screw everyone else kind of idea. The Chiron Alliance would still be intact, because officially there was no war. But Roze would know, and Svensgaard would know to create some tension there. At the same time they know that the Chiron Alliance comes with a lot of privelages right now, so neither one wants to mess it up.

Just my rantings to contribute to the discussion. Hope some of it made sense, and I realize this only applies to two of the multiple factions involved.

OOh, what if the Angel teamed cooperated with the neighbouring Free Drone team, instead of the Pirates? That would piss off Svensgaard as he's been buttering up Domai for a long time.

Okay, rant over. Gonna go to bed now.

The whole war was mystery and so many conspiracies about it Officially, there wasn't a war, but there was.... probebly Svensgaard and Roze way of flirting with each other, in some odd way can have this impression of a love triangle When the morgan exploration team sent that message, they forgot to send the coordinates. so there is only an idea as to where it is....
so the pirates and data angels could cooperate for bit, and cooperate in other certain points....like fighting morgan, spartan...once they are out of the way for the moment, against each other :P but complete cooperated at first, until something happened to start fighting against each other and then going with free drones, pirates gets annoyed. like pirates and free drones, best friends, fighting over the girl, Data Angels. while at the sametime fighting over the alien center and other goodies on the island. could have the Alien Center being discovered multiple of times, just that, one faction can't hold it long enough from another. so many people mysteriously dissapeared on that island :P the whole island could be a phenomenon cloning rifts, vortex rifts that chucks you to another location so on. So for the factions to keep the thing quiet, without attracting attention from rest of the factions that are a bit too far or whatever to get to the island. so small scale warfare....platoon size units, probe teams, etc.... lots of commando and guerilla stuff.

-LordlMP