NHL Playoffs

[Asher]

Also:

You are the guy that loves save % as proof of how great Luongo is over his career

Indeed, because only him and Hasek are at all close.

WTF does this mean?

Tim Thomas career NHL sv% regular season: 0.922
Tim Thomas career NHL sv% post season: 0.933

Roberto Luongo career NHL sv% regular season: 0.919
Roberto Luongo career NHL sv% post season: 0.918

They're not even in the same class. Also note Luongo's playoff sv% is lower than his regular season. Thomas' is higher.

Also:

Hasek career NHL sv% regular season: 0.922
Hasek career NHL sv% post season: 0.928

This makes your statement even more baffling. Thomas is quite clearly far closer to Hasek than Luongo is. In fact, Thomas is superior to Hasek...

Kiprusoff has a higher career NHL sv% in the playoffs than Luongo as well. Like Thomas, his playoff sv% is statistically much higher than the regular season sv%.
Kiprusoff career NHL sv% regular season: 0.913
Kiprusoff career NHL sv% post season: 0.921

It also makes this statement of yours pretty hilarious:

Umm, unfortunately, this is not so. His career numbers for save percentage in the playoffs and the regular season is a stellar .919 He is one of the *few* goalies who perform exactly the same in the regular season as in the playoffs.

Luongo performs similarly in the regular season and the playoffs, while the elite goaltenders elevate their play noticeably. The fact the plays similarly in both is not a good thing.

[Asher]

Also:

You're talking about probably the number 1 and number 2 goaltenders in the history of the game. Unfortunately for you, his numbers stack up superior to Roy in the regular season through age 31. Playoffs?

Love the arbitrary qualifiers. "Regular season through age 31".

Roy's playoff sv% through age 31: 0.921
Luongo's playoff sv%: 0.918
Incidentally, the career numbers are identical to those as well.

[Supr49er]

Let's go Bruins

(Never thought I'd be rooting for a Boston team )

[Asher]

http://www.downgoesbrown.com/2011/06/detailed-look-back-at-game-seven-which.html

A detailed look back at game seven, which due to a scheduling error had to be published twelve hours early

After a stunning game seven, Roberto
Luongo can barely contain his emotions.
Editor’s note: Due to a scheduling error that is too complicated to explain here, this analysis of the game seven between the Vancouver Canucks and Boston Bruins had to be published twelve hours early. If the game hasn’t happened yet, please close your browser now and come back tomorrow. Thank you for your cooperation.

So here we are. After a six-month season, four rounds of playoffs, and seven gruelling games, the NHL has crowned its champion. The Stanley Cup has been awarded. One fan base is devastated, while another will celebrate late into the night.

In the moments after a thrilling game seven, I’d like to take a moment to address you directly, fans of the winning team.

It seems like only yesterday that your team was struggling through a first round series against your bitter rivals who historically dominate you in the playoffs. But you survived, just barely, thanks to an overtime goal in game seven. Remember the excitement when the winning goal was scored, by that particular player? Little did we know the controversy that awaited them weeks later.

Your team waltzed through the second round against Peter Forsberg’s old team, then beat that non-traditional southern team in the conference finals. And there you were, back in the Stanley Cup finals for the first time in a generation. Who can forget that last time you played for Lord Stanley’s mug, back in the early 90s? I bet you can still picture your team competing furiously, proudly representing those black and yellowish-gold uniforms that they wore then and perhaps still do, before finally going down to a bitter defeat. Damn you, Mark Messier!

But a generation later, you were back, and this time the opportunity would not be wasted. It wasn’t easy. It was a vicious series, in which your team persevered despite several sickening cheapshots by the opposing team. You endured your team being taunted with immature finger waves. You watched devastating hits on Nathan Horton and Mason Raymond, 50% of which you thought were unquestionably dirty. The entire hockey world outside of your particular city was united against your team, you told us, incessantly. And let’s not even mention those shameless homer announcers on the other team’s broadcast.

And then game seven. The series had seen it all, from overtime thrillers to lopsided blowouts to everything in between, and game seven certainly fit into one of those categories. All eyes were on Roberto Luongo. Many thought he would rise to the occasion while others thought he would crumble, and in the end we now know they were right. Without question, this game will be his defining legacy.

The end of the game must seem like a blur to you now. There was that goal scored by that one guy, and then that big hit with that other guy, then that other thing done by some other guy, and then the Conn Smythe won by Tim Thomas.

And then, the magic moment you’d been waiting on for four long decades, give or take a year. What fan among you will ever forget the sight of Gary Bettman passing the Stanley Cup into the waiting arms of good old #33? And who says Europeans can’t make great captains? Certainly not anyone who has had the pleasure of watching your team’s leader, a truly unique talent. He certainly is one- or at the very most two-of-a-kind.

And now it’s all over but the riot cleanup. Your bouys are champions. A Stanley Cup banner will be raised in your arena next year. After an agonizing, debilitating, gut-wrenching test of your endurance as a fan, it was all worth it.

But at least you’re not like those fans of the other team. Imagine how devastated they must feel right now. Serves them right, those losers. Thank god you have nothing in common with them.

[Guynemer]

2006 Playoffs:

Chris Osgood, 1.55 GAA, .930 sv %, not even a whiff of Conn Smythe.


2011 Playoffs:

Roberto Luongo, 2.54 GAA, .916 sv %, mortal lock to win Conn Smythe if Vancouver wins Game Seven, according to Ben.

[Garth Vader]

http://www.downgoesbrown.com/2011/06...ven-which.html

Haha, I was just going to post this.

[Ben Kenobi]

Love the arbitrary qualifiers. "Regular season through age 31".

How is this arbitrary? Bobby Lou has exceptional GAA numbers through the career that he has played at present.

Apples to apples.

Roy's playoff sv% through age 31: 0.921
Luongo's playoff sv%: 0.918

That's not much difference at all. Thanks Asher.

[-Jrabbit]

Looking at the trends, gun to my head, I have to predict a Vancouver victory tonight.
Luongo proved himself in Game 7 vs Chicago, and home ice has meant everything in this series.

I'm rooting for Boston, but expect it will be Vancouver hoisting the Cup.

[Ben Kenobi]

Tim Thomas career NHL sv% regular season: 0.922
Tim Thomas career NHL sv% post season: 0.933

Roberto Luongo career NHL sv% regular season: 0.919
Roberto Luongo career NHL sv% post season: 0.918

You don't consider .922 and .919 to be very similar? Luongo has played way more games than Thomas.

Also note Luongo's playoff sv% is lower than his regular season.

You are seriously making that argument? The sample size is too small to make a distinction. One game is enough at this point to change that number by that amount.

This makes your statement even more baffling. Thomas is quite clearly far closer to Hasek than Luongo is. In fact, Thomas is superior to Hasek.

Samples sizes are your friend. Thomas wasn't even a starting goalie at the start of this season. He was the backup to Rask. So while you're spinning off how great he is, that's 100 percent hindsight.

Thomas hasn't played nearly as many games as Bobby Lou or Hasek. So his numbers would be expected to be higher.

Kiprusoff has a higher career NHL sv% in the playoffs than Luongo as well. Like Thomas, his playoff sv% is statistically much higher than the regular season sv%.
Kiprusoff career NHL sv% regular season: 0.913
Kiprusoff career NHL sv% post season: 0.921

Kipper also has a drastically lower save percentage than Luongo in the regular season. He's simply just not in Luongo's class. He's had one fluke cup run, and besides that, hasn't even won a series outside of it.

Luongo performs similarly in the regular season and the playoffs, while the elite goaltenders elevate their play noticeably. The fact the plays similarly in both is not a good thing.

It is when your save percentage is exceptional in the regular season. Over the number of games that Bobby Lou has played, only Hasek has superior numbers.

[Asher]

You are unbelievably pathetic, Ben. No matter how many times you are systematically embarrassed and proven to be a liar, you come back for more and keep lying and ignoring reality. You need help.

I like how a .91x save percentage is "exceptional" when Luongo does it, then you dismiss a 0.93x save percentage outright when it's someone else. You also make outlandlish claims like Luongo's stats are superior to Roy's up through age 31, then when confronted with the fact that the opposite is true you go "but they are similar!"

You would lick Luongo's ass clean after a terrible bout of diarrhea. Why do you even bother talking?

[Ben Kenobi]

- Having sex with a woman
- Being intelligent
- Being a fan of a classy hockey team
- Being an American
- Going to "Heaven"

Let's see. I'm supposed to listen to a gay Calgary atheist Canadian with a Bachelor's degree who doesn't even understand exponential functions?

Seems like your credibility is a bit shot here.

If I wanted to know what having sex with women was like, I think I'd listen to someone who actually had success with making love to women.

[Asher]

Let's see. I'm supposed to listen to a gay Calgary atheist Canadian with a Bachelor's degree who doesn't even understand exponential functions?

Seems like your credibility is a bit shot here.

If I wanted to know what having sex with women was like, I think I'd listen to someone who actually had success with making love to women.

FWIW, I have had sex with a woman.

And it's not my credibility that's shot here. Go check yourself in to a mental hospital.

Edit: Wait, don't do that. They'll find out you're an illegal and deport you back here.

[Ben Kenobi]

FWIW, I have had sex with a woman.

Indeed. You did so well with it you are now gay. Speaks volumes.

[Asher]

That logic is incomprehensible. Wouldn't the implication, if anything, that she didn't do so well?

[rah]

Ben, Are you saying that gay men can't be good lovers where women are concerned?