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  • And to pre-empt any but Bill Parcells' 3-4 defense was so good... Lawrence Taylor, Carl Banks, Harry Carson... okay, fine. But Aikman had a defense that was just as good, if not better statistically. The Giants were the a top-10 defense in total yards a few years during Simms' tenure but also jumped around a bit (11th in 88, 18th in 92) but let's look at the Cowboys:

    1992: #1
    1993: #10
    1994: #1
    1995: #9
    1996: #3
    1997: #2

    Troy Aikman during the peak of his career never had a defense worse than top-10!

    Vinny Testaverde could've been playing for the Cowboys during the 90's and would have won 3 Super Bowls easily!


    Aikman was blessed by circumstance probably more than any QB has ever been.

    Not saying he doesn't belong in the Hall but did he deserve to be a first-ballot? No. Does he deserve to be in over Phil Simms? Honestly, probably not, or at least the perceived disparity between the QB's shouldn't be as large as it is in the minds of Hall of Fame voters. Simms was a better quarterback and did more with less.
    "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
    "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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    • Tell us how you really feel.
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      • Who cares about yards per game?
        Apparently Lord Avalon.
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        • Ben has to be doing this for kicks and giggles. There's just no way. He's got to be over there laughing at us (and especially me) taking the time to respond to his inanity.
          Truth, Avalon citing Yards/game as a poor stat for Testaverde made me giggle.
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          • Made Ben orgasm or something.
            Sadly not broadcasted in Canada. I remember that game fondly.

            Flutie is great because of what he did in the CFL. I like him because he was short and good.
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            • Originally posted by -Jrabbit View Post
              Tell us how you really feel.
              Huh?
              "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
              "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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              • Owners and players agree to enter mediation. Hopefully a step in the right direction.
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                • Of course, this is not binding on either side. But, yeah, a somewhat encouraging shred of reason, so it's welcome news.
                  It may not forge an agreement, but it will force everyone to put their cards on the table - at least to each other.
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                  • Minor update...

                    PFT's Mike Florio reports the NFL and the Player's Association have agreed to seven straight days of mediation beginning Friday.
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                    • What do you think, Al?

                      Which non-playoff team will make the postseason in 2012?

                      29%
                      Dallas Cowboys

                      18%
                      New York Giants

                      31%
                      San Diego Chargers

                      21%
                      Tampa Bay Buccaneers

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                      • Today's question is a good one too

                        Which playoff team will not make the playoffs next season?

                        3%
                        Atlanta Falcons

                        14%
                        Chicago Bears

                        18%
                        Kansas City Chiefs

                        8%
                        New York Jets

                        57%
                        Seattle Seahawks

                        Total Votes: 108433
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                        • Dave Duerson found dead at home. Cause of death not released. He was 50.
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                          https://youtu.be/HLNhPMQnWu4

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                          • Oh, wow.

                            I didn't have him in Dead Pool either.
                            Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                            "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                            He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                            • I spoke up Dave Duerson during the Randall Cunningham debate with Ben, too. RIP.
                              "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                              "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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                              • And Sloww, what does a poll in February mean? We haven't had the draft, free agency, and there might not even be a season, not to mention the fact that on Sundays things always go differently than popular expectations. The 49ers and Vikings were popular playoff picks last year and those teams didn't make it.
                                "Flutie was better than Kelly, Elway, Esiason and Cunningham." - Ben Kenobi
                                "I have nothing against Wilson, but he's nowhere near the same calibre of QB as Flutie. Flutie threw for 5k+ yards in the CFL." -Ben Kenobi

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