AHL- Apolyton Hockey League III-- Olympic edition

[Asher]

And thank God for that. He's better.

What metric do you use to determine this?

[Asher]

He's proven himself many times, and I expect him to do so in the playoffs once more.

I do as well.

Proven indeed.

Last year, Luongo squandered a 5-goal effort by the Canucks and still managed to lose decisively. Luongo cost the team the playoffs last year. He's not proven anything.

[Asher]

Random factoid: Andrew Raycroft has a better save percentage (.914) and goals-against average (2.31) than Luongo (.913 and 2.55)

[Asher]

Kontiki's goalies had a helluva week.

5W, 0.972 sv% and 3 shutouts. WITH TWO GOALIES.

[Ben Kenobi]

What metric do you use to determine this?

Well lets see.

They both have zero cups.

Luongo does have a gold medal though. So I guess it must be Luongo.

[Asher]

Well lets see.

They both have zero cups.

Luongo does have a gold medal though. So I guess it must be Luongo.

Kipper has a Vezina. A gold medal and a cup are team awards.

Kipper also holds a modern day NHL record for lowest goals-against average in a season (1.69).

He also has far better stats this season, which would seem to indicate he currently is the better goalie.

[Ben Kenobi]

Last year, Luongo squandered a 5-goal effort by the Canucks and still managed to lose decisively. Luongo cost the team the playoffs last year. He's not proven anything.

Hmm?

You forget about this?

http://national-hockey-league-nhl.suite101.com/article.cfm/canucks_sweep_blues

The only sweep ever in team history.

Or perhaps you mean some other 'last season'?

[Ben Kenobi]

Kipper has a Vezina. A gold medal and a cup are team awards.

Kipper also holds a modern day NHL record for lowest goals-against average in a season (1.69), and Luongo holds no league records.

Actually, he has held one record. He had the most number of wins in a season.

It helps Kipper that he plays for one of the biggest trap users in the history of the NHL.

[Asher]

Hmm?

You forget about this?

http://national-hockey-league-nhl.suite101.com/article.cfm/canucks_sweep_blues

The only sweep ever in team history.

The fact that this is noteworthy is more of a statement of how pathetic the Canucks are than anything else.

As soon as the games got tough, he stunk it up. He lost the next series for the Canucks single-handedly. He got the offense he needed.

[Asher]

Actually, he has held one record. He had the most number of wins in a season.

A team record more than anything else and assisted by the shootout. But fine.

It helps Kipper that he plays for one of the biggest trap users in the history of the NHL.

You clearly have no idea what the trap is if you think Calgary has ever played the trap since Kipper has been a part of the team. The Sutters have been vocal opponents of the trap specifically.

You seem to be confusing defensive hockey with the trap -- a common mistake among ****ing idiots.

[Asher]

Ben, this should be amusing.

Quickly define what you think "the trap" is. Without ****ing cheating.

Then explain why you think Calgary implements that system.

[Ben Kenobi]

The fact that this is noteworthy is more of a statement of how pathetic the Canucks are than anything else.

Perhaps so, but I cannot in one breath ignore his excellent performance against the Blues and condemn him for a decent performance against the Hawks.

As soon as the games got tough, he stunk it up. He lost the next series for the Canucks single-handedly. He got the offense he needed.

Vancouver 5-3 Vancouver Luongo 1–0 A win for Luongo.
Chicago 6–3 A loss for Luongo 3 goal support.
Vancouver 2–1 A win for Luongo despite only 2 goal support.
Chicago 2-1 OT A loss for Luongo despite 1 goal support
Chicago 4–2 A loss for Luongo despite 2 goal support.
Chicago 7-5 A loss for Luongo despite 5 goals in support.

So lets see. He won a game that he should have won. He lost two that he should have won (3 and 5 goal support). He also won a game that he should not have won, with only 2 goals in support.

So that means he really only messed up in the 6-3 game.

Then, he lost, despite not getting any support.
Then, he lost despite not getting any support.

Suppose RoboLuongo lets in 2 goals a game. His record would be:

3-3.

So even with RoboLuongo playing better than the standard, his team would only have been .500. I cannot say that his team gave him sufficient support.

[Asher]

So lets see. He won a game that he should have won. He lost two that he should have won (3 and 5 goal support). He also won a game that he should not have won, with only 2 goals in support.

So that means he really only messed up in the 6-3 game.

Then, he lost, despite not getting any support.
Then, he lost despite not getting any support.

Suppose RoboLuongo lets in 2 goals a game. His record would be:

3-3.

So even with RoboLuongo playing better than the standard, his team would only have been .500. I cannot say that his team gave him sufficient support.

Holy ****ing hell, your stupidity is criminal.

He was in a must-win game. His team scored 5 goals. He gave up 7 goals.

That's all there is to it. He blew it. He was awful. He lost the series and ended the Canucks' playoff run with that one game. How awesome you thought he was against a lesser team in the prior round is irrelevant.

[Ben Kenobi]

You clearly have no idea what the trap is if you think Calgary has ever played the trap since Kipper has been a part of the team. The Sutters have been vocal opponents of the trap specifically.

While employing a carbon copy of Lemaire's system.

Calgary is widely known for being a trapping team under Sutter. When's the last time that Calgary placed in the top half of offensive teams?

[Ben Kenobi]

Asher, do you believe that GAA is unaffected by the system in which a team plays?