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  • Sutter speaks more. Good insight into the mind of a GM.



    Hold off on the welcome Mats
    Jean LeFebvre, Calgary Herald
    Published: Thursday, January 24, 2008

    Naturally, amateur bean-counters use Calgary's payroll commitments for 2008-09 -- approximately $39 million for 13 players -- as the basis for predictions about the fate of the Flames' free agents.

    Big mistake, says the GM.

    "That's another thing people don't understand when they're saying we have this much money left," said Sutter. "Well, they're assuming that everybody who's under contract will still be here. As much as they want to be general managers, they certainly haven't put their head into it. They must know what (next season's salary) cap is going to be and what our team is going to be."

    "I couldn't even tell you anything about Peter Forsberg and I haven't talked to Toronto," Sutter insisted.

    "I talked to (recently fired Leafs general manager) John Ferguson to give him support in the past two weeks, but I can't imagine they're going to trade Mats Sundin. Because (the player and the team) have such a close relationship, I can't imagine they'd trade him.

    "He's having a helluva year. You talk about No. 1 centremen? That's a No. 1 centreman. That's about as far as it goes."

    So what are the Flames focusing on?

    "It's prioritizing," said Sutter. "Who's the key guy to sign on our team? Clearly, it's (impending restricted free agent) Dion Phaneuf. After that, it's what (money) is left and how bad the player wants to play here. It's that simple.

    "Hey, any UFA who doesn't want to stay here . . . they can say all they want publicly, we've been down this road before with guys who have left and said, 'Oh, we love Calgary.' You know what they love? They love more money. There's a point where if you want to be in a good town and with a good team, you make a choice that is a good one. You can't say that for some of the guys who have left here."

    Because of his robust scoring pace since Dec. 1, his flashy style and the fact he shares an agent (Don Meehan) with Phaneuf, Huselius is Calgary's most frequently discussed would-be UFA, but the steady Langkow is just one goal and four points behind the Swede.

    "Daymond is absolutely a guy we'll make every effort to try and keep," said Sutter. "He's a really good player, but you have to find a way to make it work. He's not a No. 1 (centreman) and he's not a No. 2 guy. He's somewhere in between there, so how are you going to figure that out?"

    That brings us back to the flavour of the week. One of the strongest arguments made by the trade-Tanguay advocates is that the deal would clear more than $5 million off the books for next season.

    Then again, until those UFAs are under lock and key, getting rid of a player who is already under contract seems foolhardy. Also, should salary room be needed, Tanguay or another player's contract could be far more easily unloaded in the summer, when there are no immediate cap implications and more potential trading partners.

    "You're going to get as much value for a player as you can," said Sutter.

    Oh, and there's one more little detail.

    "Hey, we're not a selling team," noted Sutter. "We're a good team. Those guys who can't wait for us to do bad? They should have looked (at the standings) and seen that we're in first place after 50 games."

    It rankles Sutter that all efforts to deny the Tanguay gossip have had little effect on the volume level.

    "What more is he supposed to say?" Sutter wondered. "I think he's handled it really well. It's exactly what he said -- 'I'm being very professional about it and I'm trying to play hard.' And that's what he's doing.

    "The time off (for the all-star break this weekend) will be good for him. Then, hopefully, it's not on the front page when he comes back."
    "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
    Ben Kenobi: "That means I'm doing something right. "

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    • Man, I got trashed this week. Having my two top players out didn't help, but Alfie with 7 points last night...WTF?!?
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      • Originally posted by Kontiki
        Man, I got trashed this week. Having my two top players out didn't help, but Alfie with 7 points last night...WTF?!?
        I got killed too-- I believe I would have won the sv% category if I had not f***ed up earlier in the week in setting my roster-- Still might have taken it if Gerber and the Sens didn't decide to go to sleep with their big lead and win 8-4 ( and Lecav getting no goals-- worst possible combined result )
        You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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        • . .. and those OIlers never quit-- I was watching when they trailed 3-1 when my children took me away from the game. Later I see they won 4-3 in a shootout-- THat brings them to 12-3 in shootouts this season

          Wow-- They continue to hang on the fringe of the playoff picture-- I still don't think they will make it but they have shown a suprising resilience. They are inconsistent as heck but at least they did start winning a few games in regulation.
          You don't get to 300 losses without being a pretty exceptional goaltender.-- Ben Kenobi speaking of Roberto Luongo

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          • The Oilers playoff chances are slim and none, and Slim is on his horse heading out of town.

            Still, it will be a good 30 games to get the core of the team playing together with most of the injured finally back. The team should benefit and be better next year.

            I doubt there will be many deadline departures. Maybe Tarnstrom and Sanderson if a team is desperate. Outside chance that Stoll or Pitkanen move if Lowe doesn;t like his chances of resigning them. The rumours of Rolie moving are way out there. First, who would want him based on the stats, and then when did Garon demonstrate an ability to play 50 or 60 games?
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              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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              • the all star game would get better ratings if Mike Ricci were still in it.
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                • Dion Phaneuf single-handedly wins the shootout competition for the West.
                  "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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                  • Originally posted by Asher
                    Dion Phaneuf single-handedly wins the shootout competition for the West.
                    Yup and he wasn't a top contender for hardest shot--- weird night


                    And the all star game itself was a defensive battle compared to some years
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                    • Wow

                      Edmonton versus San Jose-- SJ looked like adefensive machine out there surrendering only 13 shots-- IT was the type of game where one team looks like a world beater and the other looks second rate-- Its amazing how often San Jose can look that good on the road and then suck at home

                      Interesting tonight as the Flames get the Sharks. The last time the Sharks came to town they dominated the Flames in what was probably the most listless game I watched all season (4-1 Sharks IIRC). The Flames have had many ups and downs since and are coming off a full week of rest so who the heck knows how they will play!!
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                      • Hah. Owen Nolan gets a hattrick vs Nabokov. His first in 9 years.
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                        • TSN is reporting that Phaneuf is on the verge with singing a contract extension. Apparently only a few minor details remain to be worked out.
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                          • So, Flames keep rolling.

                            2nd hottest team in the NHL since December 1st, behind Detroit (and not by much!).
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                            • TSN is reporting that Phaneuf signed a 6-year contract extension worth $39M.

                              This means his contract's expiration doesn't overlap with Iggy/Regehr too.

                              (not confirmed)
                              "The issue is there are still many people out there that use religion as a crutch for bigotry and hate. Like Ben."
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                              • Originally posted by Asher
                                Hah. Owen Nolan gets a hattrick vs Nabokov. His first in 9 years.

                                as a Flames fan


                                as a nabokov owner--- I was really hopin for a 1-0 Flames victory in which Nabby faced 50 shots
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