AHL- Apolyton Hockey League 07/08: IV The Rookie Menace

[Asher]

Originally posted by Flubber
Flames trail 2-0 early and the dang game is only on PPV AGAIN.

I think I have been able to see pretty much EVERY game for the oil, Nucks and Leafs but the Flames seem to be PPV a lot

I get the Flames PPV on CI out here...one of the advantages of being out of province.

2-1 now BTW on a Juice PPG.

And my Yahoo team is decent tonight.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Flubber
Flames trail 2-0 early and the dang game is only on PPV AGAIN.

I think I have been able to see pretty much EVERY game for the oil, Nucks and Leafs but the Flames seem to be PPV a lot

The Oilers have 13 or so PPV this year as well.

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Kontiki
Man, my team is sucking something fierce so far tonight.

3 goals and 2 assists are better than some teams

[Asher]

Flames are up 4-2 now.

Huselius is amazing tonight. It's like Hemsky, only cheaper and real.

[Asher]

The Flames have now had 7 consecutive games with a scorer scoring at least two goals.

[Kontiki]

Originally posted by Flubber


3 goals and 2 assists are better than some teams

At the time I posted that, I think I had one assist and was -5. It's turning around a bit now, especially with Biron's second straight shutout. Even with that, Ludqvist has managed to drag down my save percentage sufficiently for me to be losing that category.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Asher

There is no wrong way. I'm left handed and shoot left, and I bat right in baseball.

Wrong, backwards, not typical, whatever you want to call it.

Most hockey players use their dominant hand to hold the butt end of the stick. Right-handed people usually shoot left, and lefties usually shoot right.

The Americans are the odd ones among hockey players in the world with a lot of right-handed people shooting right. That's probably due to the influence of baseball; Righties hold a hockey stick like they hold a baseball bat with left hand at the end.

Even with these Americans, most North Americans shoot left, not right as you mistakenly claim.

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Flubber
Is there a wrong way? Take golf-- Most golfers golf right despite the fact they are righthanded. I wonder how many of them would turn around and shoot left at hockey?

Europeans were known for being predominantly left shots. I believe there have been Russian or Soviet teams in which EVERYONE shot left. It was probably just a coaching thing.

Golfers and baseball hitters face right for similar reasons while hockey players often have one hand on the stick. Think of the goals scored where is just using one hand and flicking the puck into the net.

A lot of Russian players shoot right.

Originally posted by Flubber
More generally . .. I actually found the shootout stats interesting respecting the handedness of the goalie versus the shot side of the shooter. It does appear that at least in shootouts, it makes a difference.

Assuming the stats are correct, which is a big assumption.

Just because some blogger posts something doesn't make it true.

Particularly when the blogger gives different numbers:

http://forechecker.blogspot.com/2007/09/saving-those-shootout-points.html

http://forechecker.blogspot.com/2007/02/putting-goalies-on-spot.html

On one page he says LH shooters against LH goalies score 37.3% of the time. On another page,he says the scoring rate is 36%.

RH shooters vs LH goalies, one page says 28.2 , the other page says 29.7

Why are the numbers different?

For RH goalies, his numbers apparently reflect 58 shots for RH and 100 shots for LH. That's simply not a large enough sample to draw any conclusions.

And none of these numbers show that goalies who catch right have a natural "surprise" advantage over those who catch left as Asher says.

Originally posted by Flubber

During play, I don't think its a big shock for a player to see a goalie catching with their "other hand" but when you are deking or whatnot, you are often working somewhat instintively

I don't see it as a huge thing though.

Possibly on the deke it might make a small difference based on how the goalie would move and where the body would be, which might make a small difference on a shootout, but in the regular game, I can't see it making a difference.

[notyoueither]

The Oilers won ugly.

Other than Rolie there wasn't much to cheer other than Torres showed up for a game.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Tingkai
Wrong, backwards, not typical, whatever you want to call it.

Except given the huge numbers of people playing "wrong" or "backwards" meaning those words don't apply. While there may be slight correlations in handedness and shot, they aren't even close to hard or fast rules or even assumptions you can make. The stats speak for themselves.

[Asher]

Originally posted by Tingkai
Assuming the stats are correct, which is a big assumption.

Just because some blogger posts something doesn't make it true.

Particularly when the blogger gives different numbers:

http://forechecker.blogspot.com/2007/09/saving-those-shootout-points.html

http://forechecker.blogspot.com/2007/02/putting-goalies-on-spot.html

On one page he says LH shooters against LH goalies score 37.3% of the time. On another page,he says the scoring rate is 36%.

RH shooters vs LH goalies, one page says 28.2 , the other page says 29.7

Why are the numbers different?

Uh. Here's a hint -- the dates.

God bless you.

One was partway through the season, the other one was after the season completed (Feb and September 2007). Gee, I wonder why the numbers are slightly different (but not different enough to change the big picture -- again, you split hairs rather than deal with the real issue as you've already lost that)

[Flubber]

Locked in a battle where the margin in pretty much every category is one, tonight is big. I have Connoly and Pominville while my opponet has Roy all shooting at his Norrena. The stats coming out of that one game cpuld determine the week

[Asher]

[Flubber]

Originally posted by Flubber
Locked in a battle where the margin in pretty much every category is one, tonight is big. I have Connoly and Pominville while my opponet has Roy all shooting at his Norrena. The stats coming out of that one game cpuld determine the week

Well Buffalo lost 3-0 but Norrena wasn't in goal

So tonight was a big zero out of what could have been a hugely important game

[Sparrowhawk]

Originally posted by Asher

Not sure I get the joke, and by the looks of things, neither did the Sabres players?

I assume he was trying to be funny, but I think he failed miserably. I had seen the Derek Roy portion of the interview, good to see the whole thing, but if it was supposed to be funny, it wasn't

/me