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  • #61
    12 - Air Marshal Sir Hugh Dowding
    14 - Field Marshal Erich von Manstein (Germany)
    10 - Emil Mannerheim (Finland) --
    13 - Heinz Guderian (Germany) (Generals Lutz and Guderian must share the credit blitzkreig)
    12 - General Georgi Zhukov (USSR)
    12 - Field Marshal Erwin Rommel (Germany) +
    17 - Admiral Chester Nimitz (USA)
    12 - Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto (Japan)
    10 - General Omar Bradley (USA)
    15 - General George Patton (USA)

    Eliminated:
    1st - General Tomoyuki Yamash ita (Japan)
    2nd - Field Marshal Walter Model (Germany)
    3rd - Field Marshal Albert Kesselring (Germany)
    4th - General Douglas MacArthur (USA)
    5th - Bernard Montgomery (UK)
    6th - Marshal Phillipe Leclerc (France)
    Keep on Civin'
    RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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    • #62
      12 - Air Marshal Sir Hugh Dowding
      12 - Field Marshal Erich von Manstein (Germany)--
      10 - Emil Mannerheim (Finland)
      13 - Heinz Guderian (Germany) (Generals Lutz and Guderian must share the credit blitzkreig)
      12 - General Georgi Zhukov (USSR)
      12 - Field Marshal Erwin Rommel (Germany)
      17 - Admiral Chester Nimitz (USA)
      12 - Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto (Japan)
      10 - General Omar Bradley (USA)
      16 - General George Patton (USA)+

      Eliminated:
      1st - General Tomoyuki Yamash ita (Japan)
      2nd - Field Marshal Walter Model (Germany)
      3rd - Field Marshal Albert Kesselring (Germany)
      4th - General Douglas MacArthur (USA)
      5th - Bernard Montgomery (UK)
      6th - Marshal Phillipe Leclerc (France)

      "

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      • Egbert
        #62.1
        Egbert commented
        October 19, 2022, 06:18
        Editing a comment
        Amending my prediction of the last two generals to Nimitz and Patton. Our American poasters appear to be very consistently healing American generals and very consistently hurting generals who are NOT American. LOL
      • Geronimo
        #62.2
        Geronimo commented
        October 19, 2022, 09:10
        Editing a comment
        Look again Egbert. Overall that is true but not consistently. Much like the non American posters
    • #63
      12 - Air Marshal Sir Hugh Dowding
      12 - Field Marshal Erich von Manstein (Germany)
      8 - Emil Mannerheim (Finland)--
      13 - Heinz Guderian (Germany) (Generals Lutz and Guderian must share the credit blitzkreig)
      13 - General Georgi Zhukov (USSR)+
      12 - Field Marshal Erwin Rommel (Germany)
      17 - Admiral Chester Nimitz (USA)
      12 - Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto (Japan)
      10 - General Omar Bradley (USA)
      16 - General George Patton (USA)

      Eliminated:
      1st - General Tomoyuki Yamash ita (Japan)
      2nd - Field Marshal Walter Model (Germany)
      3rd - Field Marshal Albert Kesselring (Germany)
      4th - General Douglas MacArthur (USA)
      5th - Bernard Montgomery (UK)
      6th - Marshal Phillipe Leclerc (France)

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      • #64
        Amending my prediction of the last two generals to Nimitz and Patton. Our American poasters appear to be very consistently healing American generals and very consistently hurting generals who are NOT American. LOL
        Now that my ignorance of WW2 generals has been exposed I'm just going all in on Patton(Actually George C. Scott).
        "

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        • #65
          11 - Air Marshal Sir Hugh Dowding -
          12 - Field Marshal Erich von Manstein (Germany)
          8 - Emil Mannerheim (Finland)
          12 - Heinz Guderian (Germany) (Generals Lutz and Guderian must share the credit blitzkreig) -
          14 - General Georgi Zhukov (USSR) +
          12 - Field Marshal Erwin Rommel (Germany)
          17 - Admiral Chester Nimitz (USA)
          12 - Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto (Japan)
          10 - General Omar Bradley (USA)
          16 - General George Patton (USA)

          Eliminated:
          1st - General Tomoyuki Yamash ita (Japan)
          2nd - Field Marshal Walter Model (Germany)
          3rd - Field Marshal Albert Kesselring (Germany)
          4th - General Douglas MacArthur (USA)
          5th - Bernard Montgomery (UK)
          6th - Marshal Phillipe Leclerc (France)
          "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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          • #66
            I admit that I have a bias in favor, or against, generals I casually remembered from my reading.

            Field Marshal Erich von Manstein (Germany)
            Heinz Guderian (Germany) (Generals Lutz and Guderian must share the credit blitzkreig) -
            General Georgi Zhukov (USSR)
            Field Marshal Erwin Rommel (Germany)
            Admiral Chester Nimitz (USA)
            Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto (Japan)
            General Omar Bradley (USA)
            General George Patton (USA)
            General Douglas MacArthur (USA)
            Bernard Montgomery (UK)

            I have read a lot more books about Americans than non-Americans.

            JM
            Jon Miller-
            I AM.CANADIAN
            GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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            • #67
              11 - Air Marshal Sir Hugh Dowding
              12 - Field Marshal Erich von Manstein (Germany)
              6 - Emil Mannerheim (Finland) --
              12 - Heinz Guderian (Germany) (Generals Lutz and Guderian must share the credit blitzkreig) -
              15 - General Georgi Zhukov (USSR) +
              12 - Field Marshal Erwin Rommel (Germany)
              17 - Admiral Chester Nimitz (USA)
              12 - Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto (Japan)
              10 - General Omar Bradley (USA)
              16 - General George Patton (USA)

              Eliminated:
              1st - General Tomoyuki Yamash ita (Japan)
              2nd - Field Marshal Walter Model (Germany)
              3rd - Field Marshal Albert Kesselring (Germany)
              4th - General Douglas MacArthur (USA)
              5th - Bernard Montgomery (UK)
              6th - Marshal Phillipe Leclerc (France)

              JM
              Jon Miller-
              I AM.CANADIAN
              GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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              • PLATO
                #67.1
                PLATO commented
                October 19, 2022, 15:02
                Editing a comment
                I am surprised by the lack of support for Mannerheim.I guess the Finns have truly abandoned Poly.
            • #68
              11 - Air Marshal Sir Hugh Dowding
              12 - Field Marshal Erich von Manstein (Germany)
              6 - Emil Mannerheim (Finland)
              12 - Heinz Guderian (Germany) (Generals Lutz and Guderian must share the credit blitzkreig)
              15 - General Georgi Zhukov (USSR)
              13 - Field Marshal Erwin Rommel (Germany) +
              17 - Admiral Chester Nimitz (USA)
              12 - Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto (Japan)
              8 - General Omar Bradley (USA) --
              16 - General George Patton (USA)

              Eliminated:
              1st - General Tomoyuki Yamash ita (Japan)
              2nd - Field Marshal Walter Model (Germany)
              3rd - Field Marshal Albert Kesselring (Germany)
              4th - General Douglas MacArthur (USA)
              5th - Bernard Montgomery (UK)
              6th - Marshal Phillipe Leclerc (France)

              Keep on Civin'
              RIP rah, Tony Bogey & Baron O

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              • #69
                11 - Air Marshal Sir Hugh Dowding
                12 - Field Marshal Erich von Manstein (Germany)
                7 - Emil Mannerheim (Finland) +1
                12 - Heinz Guderian (Germany) (Generals Lutz and Guderian must share the credit blitzkreig)
                13 - General Georgi Zhukov (USSR) -2
                13 - Field Marshal Erwin Rommel (Germany)
                17 - Admiral Chester Nimitz (USA)
                12 - Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto (Japan)
                8 - General Omar Bradley (USA)
                16 - General George Patton (USA)

                Eliminated:
                1st - General Tomoyuki Yamash ita (Japan)
                2nd - Field Marshal Walter Model (Germany)
                3rd - Field Marshal Albert Kesselring (Germany)
                4th - General Douglas MacArthur (USA)
                5th - Bernard Montgomery (UK)
                6th - Marshal Phillipe Leclerc (France)


                I totally show my impartiality by a Zhukov -2. He was a very capable guy no doubt, but also had his failures (like Op. Mars, pretty low coverage in Soviet historiography for a long time).

                Blah

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                • #70
                  Next time I'll up him again for getting rid of Beria
                  Blah

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                  • #71
                    yes I'm sure that's why you're down voting Zhukov
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                    • #72
                      Feels like comparing apples and oranges with this bunch. Not sure which talents/flaws to prioritize with the wide spread of command levels and opportunities.

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                      • #73
                        11 - Air Marshal Sir Hugh Dowding
                        12 - Field Marshal Erich von Manstein (Germany)
                        7 - Emil Mannerheim (Finland)
                        11 - Heinz Guderian (Germany) (Generals Lutz and Guderian must share the credit blitzkreig) -
                        13 - General Georgi Zhukov (USSR)
                        12 - Field Marshal Erwin Rommel (Germany) -
                        17 - Admiral Chester Nimitz (USA)
                        12 - Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto (Japan)
                        9 - General Omar Bradley (USA) +
                        16 - General George Patton (USA)

                        Eliminated:
                        1st - General Tomoyuki Yamash ita (Japan)
                        2nd - Field Marshal Walter Model (Germany)
                        3rd - Field Marshal Albert Kesselring (Germany)
                        4th - General Douglas MacArthur (USA)
                        5th - Bernard Montgomery (UK)
                        6th - Marshal Phillipe Leclerc (France)
                        "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                        • #74
                          Changing my mind about Mannerheim

                          11 - Air Marshal Sir Hugh Dowding
                          12 - Field Marshal Erich von Manstein (Germany)
                          8 - Emil Mannerheim (Finland) + He didn't really make any serious errors and so much of Finland's successes were owed at least in part to his decisions
                          11 - Heinz Guderian (Germany) (Generals Lutz and Guderian must share the credit blitzkreig) -
                          13 - General Georgi Zhukov (USSR)
                          12 - Field Marshal Erwin Rommel (Germany)
                          17 - Admiral Chester Nimitz (USA)
                          12 - Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto (Japan)
                          7 - General Omar Bradley (USA) -- too many clear mistakes not enough clear successes which can be attributed to him
                          16 - General George Patton (USA)

                          Eliminated:
                          1st - General Tomoyuki Yamash ita (Japan)
                          2nd - Field Marshal Walter Model (Germany)
                          3rd - Field Marshal Albert Kesselring (Germany)
                          4th - General Douglas MacArthur (USA)
                          5th - Bernard Montgomery (UK)
                          6th - Marshal Phillipe Leclerc (France)[/QUOTE]

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                          • #75
                            You are probably right,t but I would drop both about now anyways, so...

                            11 - Air Marshal Sir Hugh Dowding
                            12 - Field Marshal Erich von Manstein (Germany)
                            7 - Emil Mannerheim (Finland) -
                            11 - Heinz Guderian (Germany) (Generals Lutz and Guderian must share the credit blitzkreig)
                            14 - General Georgi Zhukov (USSR) +
                            12 - Field Marshal Erwin Rommel (Germany)
                            17 - Admiral Chester Nimitz (USA)
                            12 - Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto (Japan)
                            6 - General Omar Bradley (USA) -
                            16 - General George Patton (USA)

                            Eliminated:
                            1st - General Tomoyuki Yamash ita (Japan)
                            2nd - Field Marshal Walter Model (Germany)
                            3rd - Field Marshal Albert Kesselring (Germany)
                            4th - General Douglas MacArthur (USA)
                            5th - Bernard Montgomery (UK)
                            6th - Marshal Phillipe Leclerc (France)

                            JM
                            Jon Miller-
                            I AM.CANADIAN
                            GENERATION 35: The first time you see this, copy it into your sig on any forum and add 1 to the generation. Social experiment.

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