Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[N35t0r]

In December 2017, Max Abrahms of the Council on Foreign Relations and John Glaser of the Cato Institute observed in the Los Angeles Times that "[ISIL] imploded right after external support for the 'moderate' rebels dried up,"

Imagine that, ISIL collapsed when Trump stopped arming Obama's moderate rebels. We were running guns in and out of Ukraine before Russia reacted to the coup. I can tell what the people in these regions wanted just by looking at the direction they pointed their guns. They were shooting at the Nazi army Washington and Kiev sent to attack them, the Russian army didn't defend them until later in 2014 and that led to the Minsk Accords.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_Sycamore

There were millions of people in the Donbas who rejected the coup and we armed Nazis to kill them. Marcia Marcia Marcia doesn't even enter the picture.

The Nazis were defeated just as troop and weapon shipments to Europe started dwindling. All those weapons the US was producing were being sent to the Nazis so that they could kill Russians! The US is responsible for WWII! It's all so clear now!

[Berzerker]

We were sending weapons/materials to Russia so they could kill Nazis back then. After WWII we started funding/arming the Banderites as part of our cold war. We have somewhat of a bipolar relationship with Nazis that Russians just cant appreciate. I guess losing 25m people to them left a dent in the Russian psyche.

[N35t0r]

No, that's what the MSM want you to think. Otherwise why would the Nazis collapse just when weapon shipments to Europe started winding down? Clearly Washington was arming the Nazis just to kill Russians.

[Berzerker]

they were doing that before wwii

[N35t0r]

No, before WWII the Russians were arming the Nazis so that they would invade western Europe.

After Barbarossa, the USA started arming the Nazis so that they would kill Russians instead. Otherwise why would the Nazis collapse just at the same time weapons shipments to Europe went down enormously?

[PLATO]

Back to the war at hand...

Ukrainian armor has been geolocated behind the third and final line of defense near Verbove. If the gap is wide enough, we may start to see some major armor action just in time for the Abrams arriving next week. The Russian army, though still mighty, is beginning to teeter a bit.

[N35t0r]

Back to the war at hand...

Ukrainian armor has been geolocated behind the third and final line of defense near Verbove. If the gap is wide enough, we may start to see some major armor action just in time for the Abrams arriving next week. The Russian army, though still mighty, is beginning to teeter a bit.

It's not the third line, it's the third 'layer' of the fist line.

[PLATO]

I stand corrected and Thank You for the clarification.

[Geronimo]

Back to the war at hand...

Ukrainian armor has been geolocated behind the third and final line of defense near Verbove. If the gap is wide enough, we may start to see some major armor action just in time for the Abrams arriving next week. The Russian army, though still mighty, is beginning to teeter a bit.

IIRC, these are export Abrams possibly inferior even to the leopards and challengers they've already deployed so I suspect the Abrams will have very little significance.

[Berzerker]

a minority of Americans support the war in Ukraine...to protect democracy

[Ming]

and a minority of Americans are against abortion

[Berzerker]

should they get their way to protect democracy?

[pchang]

I think Lavrov may have just declared war. I guess there is no point in holding back now.

[BeBMan]

I guess Lavrov is still hurt that people laughed publicly over his Ukraine statements last (?) year

[Berzerker]

Foreign country told US citizen to commit act of war
US citizen said no
US Senator demands US citizen be investigated

I thought it was illegal for US citizens to conduct foreign policy

The people in charge are shameless liars and hypocrites

actually the US had sanctions on Crimea so Musk needed permission to extend Starlink to the region of Crimea

[Ming]

The people in charge are shameless liars and hypocrites

ALL POLITICIANS ARE LIAR AND HYPOCRITES
Hell, Trump told more lies than any president in recent history.
And you are just figuring this out

[PLATO]

Correction: Trump GOT CAUGHT telling more lies than any President in recent history (Disclaimer: He probably DID tell more lies, but who can tell given U.S. politicians?). General Fact: If a President is speaking...he/she is probably lying. Trump just isn't a very good liar.

[pchang]

And what does that say about the people who vote for them? I guess it’s OK to support liars as long as they are telling us the lies we want to hear.

[Berzerker]

cuz Trumpisaliar

[Berzerker]

Nato Secy Gen Jens Stoltenberg said in the fall of '21 Putin told Nato Russia wouldn't invade if Nato didn't let Ukraine join