Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[Berzerker]

Okay.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/15/russia-ukraine-donbas-donetsk-luhansk-public-opinion/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jul/02/russians-hunted-down-veterans-of-donbas-conflict-ukraine

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/1060586X.2018.1447769?journalCode=rpsa20

The only polls you'll find supporting the special operation in any part of the Donbas are the ones taken at the muzzle of a gun by the Separatists themselves Berz.

I cant access the 1st, the 2nd isn't about 'separatists' or opinion polls, and the 3rd doesn't tell us much of anything. Can you quote these articles? The 3rd said the "article investigates popular opinion in Donbas before armed conflict began, to determine whether the high concentration of ethnic Russians there drove support for separatism." I'm more interested in opinion polls and referendum after the coup and arrival of Azov to attack protesters. Did you read the 3rd link? There is no data, nothing.

Here: "the results of the survey indicate bleak prospects of reintegrating the occupied parts of the Donbas region into Ukraine. The majority of the residents of the occupied Donbas (80.5%) did not wish the “republics” to be reintegrated into Ukraine." - Oct '19

https://krytyka.com/en/articles/perilous-survey-what-new-survey-occupied-donbas

And that was when optimism peaked with the election of the peace candidate Zelensky. Course you know what happened when he told Azov they had to move in accordance with the peace deal, he was chased away with his tail tucked between his legs.

[Berzerker]

I thought RT was censored...democracy and all that

[Ming]

Ming if you think the right wingers you describe constitute a plurality of the Republicans you seriously need to recalibrate.


But you're right that it's insane to characterize Biden, serving as a US president nominated by the Democrat party as any kind of "right winger" in a US political context. That's just nuts. Makes me think Berz might just be an elaborate troll with no sincere posts.

Unfortunately, enough Republicans feel that way... simply look at all the laws they are passing to limit the rights of women and other minorities. The laws they are passing to make it tougher for minorities to vote. Redistricting to minimize minorities votes... They sound like a bunch of Nazi's to me.

[Geronimo]

More made up crap. Total opinion.
Biden... a right winger....
Where do you find this crap
The true right wingers are the Repubs, and their desire to limit freedoms for ALL types of minorities. If you aren't white, they don't give a damn about you and don't want you to vote.
They are Nazis and want straight white people to rule while limiting EVERYBODY ELSE.
They have put America second in their push to limit individual freedoms.

Ming if you think the right wingers you describe constitute a plurality of the Republicans you seriously need to recalibrate.


But you're right that it's insane to characterize Biden, serving as a US president nominated by the Democrat party as any kind of "right winger" in a US political context. That's just nuts. Makes me think Berz might just be an elaborate troll with no sincere posts.

[Geronimo]

lets ask the people of the Donbas.

Okay.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/15/russia-ukraine-donbas-donetsk-luhansk-public-opinion/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jul/02/russians-hunted-down-veterans-of-donbas-conflict-ukraine

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/1060586X.2018.1447769?journalCode=rpsa20

The only polls you'll find supporting the special operation in any part of the Donbas are the ones taken at the muzzle of a gun by the Separatists themselves Berz.

[Geronimo]

Bullcrap. Read it again. it was Moscow installed FSB agent Igor Girkin begging Moscow for more help.

[BeBMan]

Putin explaining quantum fizzics:

Kolesnikov also asked Putin if Wagner Group would remain “as a combat unit.” To this, the Russian president replied that Wagner Group does not exist, as Russia has no law on private military organizations.

“We don’t have a law on private military organizations! It simply does not exist! <…> The group exists, but legally it does not exist! This is a separate issue related to actual legalization. But this is a question that should be discussed in the State Duma, in the government. It’s not an easy question,” Putin added.

Wagner is Schroedingers Mercs.

https://meduza.io/en/news/2023/07/14/putin-says-wagner-group-no-longer-legally-exists

[Berzerker]

lets ask the people of the Donbas

[-Jrabbit]

More steaming excrement. Kiev literally cannot invade the Donbas -- IT'S THEIRS ALREADY.

[-Jrabbit]

Let's not forget about kidnapping all their kids and calling it "protection."

[-Jrabbit]

Geronimo, please don't attempt sarcasm with Berz. He will definitely think you are serious and take it as support for his bizarre worldview and Moscow-approved "facts."

[Ming]

Mexicans are invading Texas and we haven't unleashed the artillery on them yet. I've despised Biden for decades and he is a right winger. If a zealously anti-Hispanic right wing coup in Washington led to a Russian backed Nazi army attacking protesters in the SW and no one defended the victims, I would not condemn Mexico for helping them. I sure wouldn't be handing the Nazis cash and weapons for gods sake. Brandon wanted this war and Kiev invaded the Donbas with his blessing and support to get it.

More made up crap. Total opinion.
Biden... a right winger....
Where do you find this crap
The true right wingers are the Repubs, and their desire to limit freedoms for ALL types of minorities. If you aren't white, they don't give a damn about you and don't want you to vote.
They are Nazis and want straight white people to rule while limiting EVERYBODY ELSE.
They have put America second in their push to limit individual freedoms.

[Broken_Erika]

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[-Jrabbit]

You are dead wrong. Russia is just a little preoccupied with their disastrous Special Invasion Operation.
But that's a 900-mile border. You can damn well bet they care.

[Berzerker]

Gee... I guess Mexico can invade Texas and you would support them since Mexicans are so badly treated in Texas and other Red states.

And your underwear is showing every time you call OUR president Brandon.
Your bias is blinding you into believing all the crap being spewed by right wing media.

The facts are simple. RUSSIA INVADED UKRAINE. FACT.
The people they are supposedly protecting are being killed and raped by Russian forces.
All they want is the land.

Mexicans are invading Texas and we haven't unleashed the artillery on them yet. I've despised Biden for decades and he is a right winger. If a zealously anti-Hispanic right wing coup in Washington led to a Russian backed Nazi army attacking protesters in the SW and no one defended the victims, I would not condemn Mexico for helping them. I sure wouldn't be handing the Nazis cash and weapons for gods sake. Brandon wanted this war and Kiev invaded the Donbas with his blessing and support to get it.