Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[BeBMan]

Russia making efforts to increase the average IQ of its naval forces in the Black Sea:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/23/russia-security-sevastopol-black-sea-base-spy-dolphins

[Broken_Erika]

Self-proclaimed Tsar Prigozhin reappeared
"Ukraine has not bombed Donetsk for 8 years, only Russian positions. The Armed Forces of Ukraine were not going to attack Russia with NATO soldiers, the Russian Ministry of Defense is deceiving the public and the president."​

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1672157866222923781?

[Geronimo]

Then why did Boris travel to Kiev to talk Zelensky out of a non-existent peace deal? We were shelling civilians for 8 years after the coup.

You constantly assert they "shelled civillians" for 8 years. Wth does that even mean Berz? Does that mean they wanted the civilians to die? If so given how much better Russia has proven to be at shelling civilians in one year than Ukraine was in eight, it's still obvious sending more arms to the Ukrainian side is the right move if we don't like civilians to die.

But really, if your BS about "civilians shelled" for 8 years were anything close to true, the most heavily shelled areas wouldn't be airports, farms and rural villages. Instead Donetsk and Luhansk would look like Mariupol.

Actions speak louder than propaganda Berz.

[N35t0r]

Interesting interview with prigozhin:

https://nitter.net/i/status/1672177488535977984

Along other comments (from machine translation):

• Ukraine has not bombed Donetsk for 8 years, but only the positions of the Russians. All these years Donbass has been plundered, including by employees of the Russian presidential administration.

[Broken_Erika]

No, they fled when the separatists took over and started slaughtering the pro ukraine people, i know a ukrainian who posts on CFC, who had to flee the russians. BTW the separatists were more Nazi than Azov.

[Berzerker]

they fled the fighting when Kiev sent armies to attack protesters

[Broken_Erika]

What about the ones that fled the separatists?

[Berzerker]

The people of Donbas and Crimea dont want to be controlled by Ukraine

[BlackCat]

The conflict was frozen for 8 years and Russia invaded to unfreeze it

The russians could easily unfreeze the situation by pulling out russian units, their equipment and let the Ukrainians taking control over Donbas and Crimea.

[Berzerker]

Russia'd love to have a "peace" that would "freeze" the conflict now that their initial 3-day war turns out to be a never-ending, grueling endeavour... (edit: ooops Dinner posted that earlier already - well it's still true)

The conflict was frozen for 8 years and Russia invaded to unfreeze it

[Berzerker]

lol, they did not have a peace deal, Russia was still attacking in the south/east and shelling civilians all over the place (but you seem to not care when Russia kills civilians).

Then why did Boris travel to Kiev to talk Zelensky out of a non-existent peace deal? We were shelling civilians for 8 years after the coup.

[BeBMan]

Russia'd love to have a "peace" that would "freeze" the conflict now that their initial 3-day war turns out to be a never-ending, grueling endeavour... (edit: ooops Dinner posted that earlier already - well it's still true)

[N35t0r]

lol, they did not have a peace deal, Russia was still attacking in the south/east and shelling civilians all over the place (but you seem to not care when Russia kills civilians).

[Berzerker]

https://youtu.be/xLrlmhAgc4Y

Here's a short JD video on the peace deal Russia and Ukraine had before we told Zelensky to violate it

the country is run by ghouls

[Berzerker]

Armored vehicles look like death traps