Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[BeBMan]

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-parliament-is-expected-back-army-recruitment-criminals-ukraine-conflict-2023-06-14/

After Wagner supposedly stopped, the Russian parliament offers new opportunities for aspiring criminals...

[Berzerker]

The timing doesn't exactly pan out, since they didn't retreat until after the deal fell through.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/03/16/ukraine-russia-reportedly-making-significant-progress-toward-15-point-peace-deal

Talks were ongoing in mid March '22

https://www.usnews.com/news/world-report/articles/2022-03-29/russia-begins-retreat-from-kyiv-in-major-strategy-shift-u-s-general

Putin begins retreating from Kiev March 29

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2022/05/06/boris-johnson-pressured-zelenskyy-ditch-peace-talks-russia-ukrainian-paper

Boris showed up April 9

Its funny Boris would tell Zelensky to violate a peace deal because Putin will violate it

[Berzerker]

what trials?

[BeBMan]

Remember last year when Russia had advanced on Kiev and then withdrew? Turns out the reason they withdrew is because they had suffered plenty losses and their logistics was so bad they had to walk back to prevent suffering more.

FTFY.

[Jon Miller]

Not true.

Recently Russia hasn't held to treaties when they had the advantage. This is a reason for free nations near Russia to join NATO.

JM

[N35t0r]

Also, peace deals signed by Russia are worthless.

[N35t0r]

well well, if it aint the smoker

Remember last year when Russia had advanced on Kiev and then withdrew? Turns out the reason they withdrew is because they had a peace deal with Zelensky. Then BoJo and various ghouls arrived to talk Z out of the deal they just made with Russia.

The timing doesn't exactly pan out, since they didn't retreat until after the deal fell through.

[MatthewDavid]

I still remember when in 2014, Sean Micallef in his TV series "Mad as hell" made an animation based on Dad's Army of the 1970s going "Who do you think you are kidding Mr Putin?" thinking that their invasion then would lead to World War Three, like when Germany annexed Czeckoslovakia (or however you spell it correctly) back in 1939.

[MatthewDavid]

Uncle Sparky what do you think of Denys Arcand's "American Empire" films from the mid 80s to recently 2018? As in "Decline of the American Empire" (1986), "Jesus of Montreal" (1989/1990) "The Barbarian Invasions" (2003), "Days of Darkness" (2007), and "Fall of the American Empire" (2018). basically comparing American Empire to Roman Empire.

[Geronimo]

well well, if it aint the smoker

Remember last year when Russia had advanced on Kiev and then withdrew? Turns out the reason they withdrew is because they had a peace deal with Zelensky. Then BoJo and various ghouls arrived to talk Z out of the deal they just made with Russia.

Why wouldn't Putin make the deal instantly public?

Who revealed this betrayed deal to you?

What were the terms of the secret deal?

[Berzerker]

well well, if it aint the smoker

Remember last year when Russia had advanced on Kiev and then withdrew? Turns out the reason they withdrew is because they had a peace deal with Zelensky. Then BoJo and various ghouls arrived to talk Z out of the deal they just made with Russia.

[Berzerker]

I narrowed it down for you

[Dauphin]

It's a deranged rant.

[Berzerker]

The narrative was jumping around - it said no-one was banned / suspended from Twitter, then said the issue was the FBI was trying to ban American journalists on behalf of a foreign Nazi Secret Service, and then said that the list targeted were Russian politicians and journalists spreading disinformation. Then it went off on to Hunter Biden's laptop.....and then said Clinton and Biden voters are living under a fascist regime in America and distracted by the shiny object that is Trump.

I found it hard to follow a cogent argument in it.

FBI helped Ukraine censor journalists

[Berzerker]

No, the FBI is actually doing a good thing by fighting false news.

Helping Ukraine censor journalists protects democracy from fake news... I mean false news.

Now get your shots so you dont give Covid to the old folks