Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[Ming]

They are making it more difficult to vote by limiting mail in ballots, eliminating drop boxes, limiting the number of polling stations,
All these things help make it easier to vote for working and poor Americans.
In a perfect world, EVERY AMERICAN would vote.
Unfortunately, the US has terrible voting participation. And they just want to make it worse.
And it's minorities and poor people that the Repubs are trying to stop from voting.
They keep claiming election security as the reason, but that's all BS.
They have yet to prove (and they have tried repeatedly) that these forms of voting are more prone to voter fraud.
There was No wide spread fraud in the last election... but they keep claiming there was with NO PROOF, so they can make it harder for people (mostly Democrats) to vote.
Paper ballots are just as easy to cheat with as any other form of voting.

[Geronimo]

So true... the Republican party is now the party of insults, revenge, no real issues, limiting rights of women and minorities, and making it more difficult for AMERICANS to vote.
I want no part of that White supremacy nonsense.

With respect, not everything that makes it more difficult to vote is contrary to the interests of voters.

Specifically which difficulties they have advocated are bothering you?

Remember Harry Wait in Wisconsin arrested for voter fraud?

https://www.fox6now.com/news/wisconsin-election-fraud-charges-wait

He was only caught because he published his crime to make a point.

Election fraud is dismissed because of so few violations of existing laws being prosecuted. That's not evidence of lack of fraud. That can instead merely be evidence of lack of evidence. Many kinds of fraud would not be expected to leave any evidence.

[Ming]

Would you say that you have stayed in the same place politically, but that the Republican Party moved too far away from you?

So true... the Republican party is now the party of insults, revenge, no real issues, limiting rights of women and minorities, and making it more difficult for AMERICANS to vote.
I want no part of that White supremacy nonsense.

[ZEE]

You are moar insane than I am, thats impressive.

Difference is I actually know how to play the game.

[Berzerker]

Why are the people of the Donbas so distasteful?

[Berzerker]

If Biden had been on the pro-war/pro-intervention side, he would have kept us in Afghanistan.

He pushed for us to get out of Afghanistan during Obama's administration and then, despite Trump making it a poison pill, actually took us out of Afghanistan in 2021.

JM

Trump negotiated the peace deal and our departure, the neocons had a replacement war ready

[pchang]

Would you say that you have stayed in the same place politically, but that the Republican Party moved too far away from you?

[Ming]

I read left and right media and make up my own mind.
Republican voting laws are meant to lower minority voting... Period.
Redistricting to limit minority representation... Fact. Thank god the courts have told them to screw off on occasion.
And the laws they are passing are restricting rights for Americans... women, minorities, gays and anybody else they don't like, simply to play to their base of less educated whites. But heaven forbid they pass basic and smart gun laws.
I was a Republican for most of my life but now I'm really no party, and will vote for people who aren't on the extremes of either party.

[PLATO]

Unfortunately, enough Republicans feel that way... simply look at all the laws they are passing to limit the rights of women and other minorities. The laws they are passing to make it tougher for minorities to vote. Redistricting to minimize minorities votes... They sound like a bunch of Nazi's to me.

You are looking at many of these laws through the biased view of liberal media. You are better than these comments.

[Jon Miller]

Joe Biden was the warmonger's pick in 2020 and in 2016 they chose Hillary. They probably wanted her in 2008 but Obama ran against her support for Biden's invasion of Iraq. The Dem establishment is right wing, pro war, pro censorship, pro merger of corporatism and statism - fascism. I've seen your analogies, making you think is beyond my ability.

If Biden had been on the pro-war/pro-intervention side, he would have kept us in Afghanistan.

He pushed for us to get out of Afghanistan during Obama's administration and then, despite Trump making it a poison pill, actually took us out of Afghanistan in 2021.

JM

[ZEE]

Makes me think Berz might just be an elaborate troll with no sincere posts.

Possibly, but I do not think so. I can say from experience that trolls give minimal effort for maximum results. Let's say for a moment that Berz IS a troll; the amount of time he spends reading all his information from politics to ancient Mesopotamia, and then to make walls of text after walls of text about said topics just to get laughed at and dismissed at best, proves he is a terrible troll. Real trolls can make you snap with 2 posts, one line each, then make YOU post walls of angry text.

So I believe what Berz is saying he actually believes. I do not agree with much of it, but he is actually learned about what he is saying, he just chose a side most find distasteful.

[Berzerker]

Ming if you think the right wingers you describe constitute a plurality of the Republicans you seriously need to recalibrate.


But you're right that it's insane to characterize Biden, serving as a US president nominated by the Democrat party as any kind of "right winger" in a US political context. That's just nuts. Makes me think Berz might just be an elaborate troll with no sincere posts.

Joe Biden was the warmonger's pick in 2020 and in 2016 they chose Hillary. They probably wanted her in 2008 but Obama ran against her support for Biden's invasion of Iraq. The Dem establishment is right wing, pro war, pro censorship, pro merger of corporatism and statism - fascism. I've seen your analogies, making you think is beyond my ability.

[Berzerker]

Okay.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/15/russia-ukraine-donbas-donetsk-luhansk-public-opinion/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jul/02/russians-hunted-down-veterans-of-donbas-conflict-ukraine

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/1060586X.2018.1447769?journalCode=rpsa20

The only polls you'll find supporting the special operation in any part of the Donbas are the ones taken at the muzzle of a gun by the Separatists themselves Berz.

I cant access the 1st, the 2nd isn't about 'separatists' or opinion polls, and the 3rd doesn't tell us much of anything. Can you quote these articles? The 3rd said the "article investigates popular opinion in Donbas before armed conflict began, to determine whether the high concentration of ethnic Russians there drove support for separatism." I'm more interested in opinion polls and referendum after the coup and arrival of Azov to attack protesters. Did you read the 3rd link? There is no data, nothing.

Here: "the results of the survey indicate bleak prospects of reintegrating the occupied parts of the Donbas region into Ukraine. The majority of the residents of the occupied Donbas (80.5%) did not wish the “republics” to be reintegrated into Ukraine." - Oct '19

https://krytyka.com/en/articles/perilous-survey-what-new-survey-occupied-donbas

And that was when optimism peaked with the election of the peace candidate Zelensky. Course you know what happened when he told Azov they had to move in accordance with the peace deal, he was chased away with his tail tucked between his legs.

[Berzerker]

I thought RT was censored...democracy and all that

[Ming]

Ming if you think the right wingers you describe constitute a plurality of the Republicans you seriously need to recalibrate.


But you're right that it's insane to characterize Biden, serving as a US president nominated by the Democrat party as any kind of "right winger" in a US political context. That's just nuts. Makes me think Berz might just be an elaborate troll with no sincere posts.

Unfortunately, enough Republicans feel that way... simply look at all the laws they are passing to limit the rights of women and other minorities. The laws they are passing to make it tougher for minorities to vote. Redistricting to minimize minorities votes... They sound like a bunch of Nazi's to me.