Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[Berzerker]

Wasn't there already a grand Russian offensive launched earlier this year in the Kupiansk-Kharkiv region? Not to mention the big push south announced by Berz...

I made that prediction before finding out that force was not meant to take Kiev but only pressure Zelensky into making a deal - which it did and was withdrawn. The next time it will be larger.

[Ming]

You can tell Berz is a Trump fan... He resorts to silly nick names thinking it proves his point... BluAnon
Did you get that from a video as well...

[Geronimo]

https://youtu.be/Sw0aZFYdGwo

Nato secy general admits rejecting draft treaty to spare Ukraine this war

propaganda and narratives... This is why BluAnon is more misinformed than QAnon

It wouldn't necessarily mean anything if he had. But when in the video was it?

[BeBMan]

The ISW report about the incident from yesterday says that the attack isn't progressing well. Actually, it's a perfect example on why the Ukrainians doesn't do such things after their first few attempts early in their offensive.

Wasn't there already a grand Russian offensive launched earlier this year in the Kupiansk-Kharkiv region? Not to mention the big push south announced by Berz...

[Berzerker]

https://youtu.be/Sw0aZFYdGwo

Nato secy general admits rejecting draft treaty to spare Ukraine this war

propaganda and narratives... This is why BluAnon is more misinformed than QAnon

[Berzerker]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67095103

If Russia punches through at Avdiivka the initiative will have changed hands to Russia perhaps for good. The west could have avoided that by sending Ukraine everything they sent as soon as it was possible, rather than boiling the frog. The US alone could also have secured Ukrainian victory by promptly lend-leasing to the Ukrainians every Abrams that could be shipped to the Ukrainians , let alone shipping every Abrams or other gear that is nearly useless in Asia to the Ukrainians.

Rule number one in intervening in foreign wars.

1. Pick the side that will win and make sure it does.

very Wilsonian of you... but what brain trust actually thought Russia would lose?

[Berzerker]

I was asked for sources who've paid a heavy price for their reporting, not youtubers. The main youtuber I post here is the comedian Jimmy Dore and he regularly relies on the same sources, mostly on the ones who are still active. You vote for the people persecuting Ellsberg's heroes and accuse me of insulting his memory because I post videos of Jimmy Dore? I'd bet $$$ Ellsberg viewed Dore positively too, Dore is certainly a fan of his. I get criticized for posting links and for not posting links.

[Thoth]

The reports I've seen indicate that the Russians got their asses handed to them near Avdiivka.

[Geronimo]

The ISW report about the incident from yesterday says that the attack isn't progressing well. Actually, it's a perfect example on why the Ukrainians doesn't do such things after their first few attempts early in their offensive.

It's a very large combined arms attack. If Russia doesn't punch though and Ukraine holds the field then it will indicate a lot more trouble for Russia. Of course it's also a location Ukraine can scarce afford to lose to it would seem to be forcing a decisive outcome either way.

[BlackCat]

The ISW report about the incident from yesterday says that the attack isn't progressing well. Actually, it's a perfect example on why the Ukrainians doesn't do such things after their first few attempts early in their offensive.

[Geronimo]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-67095103

If Russia punches through at Avdiivka the initiative will have changed hands to Russia perhaps for good. The west could have avoided that by sending Ukraine everything they sent as soon as it was possible, rather than boiling the frog. The US alone could also have secured Ukrainian victory by promptly lend-leasing to the Ukrainians every Abrams that could be shipped to the Ukrainians , let alone shipping every Abrams or other gear that is nearly useless in Asia to the Ukrainians.

Rule number one in intervening in foreign wars.

1. Pick the side that will win and make sure it does.

[-Jrabbit]

Rarely do you cite any of those people. I was referencing the motley collection of YouTubers, podcasters, et al. that you afflict us with on a nearly daily basis.

[Berzerker]

Here's what I said:

"One of my heroes died recently, Daniel Ellsberg exposed the war machine's lies in Vietnam. Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, Chelsea Manning, Glenn Greenwald, Aaron Mate, there's a few more. People who paid the price for exposing our torture program."

Ellsberg cited Assange and Manning as 2 of his heroes and I'm sure he thinks highly of Snowden, Greenwald, Mate and the people exposing the torture program - thats parts of what his heroes did. I think Ellsberg gave lengthy interviews to both Greenwald and Mate, so I dont know who on the list is this insult to his memory. I mean, it aint like I voted for the people persecuting Ellsberg's heroes.

[-Jrabbit]

Dude, the Pentagon papers was over 50 years ago. It was a discrete, specific revelation of a brave and committed man of principle.
Comparing your stable of contemporary, scattergun conspiracy theorists and whatabout artists to Daniel Ellsberg is an embarrassing insult to the memory of a man you claim as a personal hero.

[-Jrabbit]

Well, I will agree that it's hard to believe.