Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[Geronimo]

Maybe to encourage the very kind of strategic blunder that Ukraine is committing...?

I think politically this will not play well in Russia regardless of how badly Ukraine wastes resources in this operation. I doubt Putin or senior Russian military leadership would accept any political embarrassment for any amount of material gain with respect to the Ukrainians in the special military operation. That says to me that whatever the reason Russia didn't extensively fortify the border, they probably didn't do so to encourage a Ukrainian invasion of Russia.

[N35t0r]

Maybe to encourage the very kind of strategic blunder that Ukraine is committing...?

Or overconfident that Ukraine would be leashed by fear of offending their western benefactors by striking at Russia.

[Dinner]

That they haven't built defensive works demonstrates a special kind of arrogance in Russian strategic planning.

I agree though I would point out that Russia did build much more extensive defensive works in eastern Ukraine. Far more than Ukraine itself has built. I suspect the Russians have concentrated their resources on eastern Ukraine and have let defensive lines in Russia itself go without. They probably thought they were safe and Ukraine would never dare go into Russia itself

The reports are kind of worse because supposedly these sections were held by Chechen fake tik Tok soldiers who spent most of their time acting as blocking units shooting Russia conscripts who dares to retreat. Those Chechens ran away the second they heard Ukrainians were coming. The rest were untrained and poorly equipped green conscripts who did try to defend but didn't know what they were doing and many of whom ended up surrendering in mass.

[The Mad Monk]

That they haven't built defensive works demonstrates a special kind of arrogance in Russian strategic planning.

[Geronimo]

Technically right, but in practice totally wrong. The Ukrainians hasn't met any unmanned trenches yet, if they had, they would have steamrolled it. The russians can't cover all the front of the Ukrainian/Russian without decimating their military currently active in Ukraine.

they'd man a well-prepared defensive line with raw green conscripts and even elite well-equipped Ukrainian attacks could be stopped. For that kind of defence manpower isn't as much of an issue. Part of Ukraine's recent woes relate to the far less extensive defence infrastructure that Ukraine was able to place in the way of Russia's counter offensive than what Russia was able to lay in front the the Ukrainian offensive. The over whelming majority of Ukrainian well prepared defences predate the special military operation.

[BlackCat]

That has so far still been decisive in blunting Ukraine's counteroffensives all along the front...manned or not

Technically right, but in practice totally wrong. The Ukrainians hasn't met any unmanned trenches yet, if they had, they would have steamrolled it. The russians can't cover all the front of the Ukrainian/Russian without decimating their military currently active in Ukraine.

[Geronimo]

Technically, they could have build such trenches, but they would never be able to man them whether we are talking of personnel or equipment (tanks, guns etc).

That has so far still been decisive in blunting Ukraine's counteroffensives all along the front...manned or not

[BlackCat]

I'm astonished that Russia hadn't already entrenched massive defence infrastructure to guard against this all up and down the length of the border with Ukraine. They've definitely done so all along the front within Ukraine.

Technically, they could have build such trenches, but they would never be able to man them whether we are talking of personnel or equipment (tanks, guns etc).

[BeBMan]

Maybe they don't see their border as some kind of red line

[Geronimo]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/ar...nto-second-day

I'm astonished that Russia hadn't already entrenched massive defence infrastructure to guard against this all up and down the length of the border with Ukraine. They've definitely done so all along the front within Ukraine.

[BeBMan]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/07/ukraine-incursion-into-russia-kursk-region-continues-into-second-day

[Bereta_Eder]

I like Sevastopole

sevastoupolis


ΣΕΒΑΣΤΟΥΠΟΛΗ

the city of reverance


pretty darn good name if you ask me. very religious and awe inspiring


we don't have names like that anymore

[Bereta_Eder]

it is the same in many other parts of the world. she's nothign special in that regard

[Bereta_Eder]

cherson chersona ΧΕΡΣΩΝΑ

it means peninsula


Oddessa ΟΔΔΥΣΟΣ

Simply means the citgy of Ulyses

Mariopole ΜΑΡΙΟΥΠΟΛΙΣ


simply means the city of virgin mary


i can go on and on


bascailly urkaine for some reason is a miniscule map of greek history

[Bereta_Eder]

also half of ukranian cities have greek names


why? i wonder