Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[Ming]

Again... ignoring the fact that "your cure" was FAR worse than the disease. And that the "cure" wasn't really a cure, just an excuse by Putin to steal more Ukrainian land again.
But again, you continue to make Putin the hero here, even though he has destroyed the lives of those you claim he was "trying" to save.

[Berzerker]

And Putin is your hero because he invaded another country and killed and raped the people you claim he was protecting.
What a guy.
But I guess if you scream Nazi over and over again, Putin is the good guy. Guess what, he's a war criminal, and doesn't give a damn about the people... only the land.

Its a tough choice, Putin or Nazis. Nah, this is easy. The people of the Donbas have the natural right to defend themselves and they exercised that right when Kiev sent a Nazi army to kill them. Do you believe the millions of people in eastern Ukraine should be free(r) to govern themselves? Zelensky did in '19 when he took office... The Nazis disagreed, they were at war with "protesters". Not Russian little green men or Putin, they were at war with Ukrainians protesting the right wing coup that drove their democratically elected leader from office in '14. But hey, democracy, right?

And the defense? No coup, no Nazis, no peace efforts... The Ghost of Kiev saved Ukraine and evacuating children from battlefields is a war crime.

Can we let the people of the Donbas self-govern? If Russia did withdraw what would happen? Everyone smiles and shakes hands or the Nazis slaughter the protesters? Thats how this all began and the west will put Azov in charge of the Donbas with Nato missiles on the Russian border. I know how we'd react if Russia was setting up missiles on our border.

[Berzerker]

Are you accusing the people of the Donbas of being Nazis to justify sending a Nazi army to kill them?

[BeBMan]

Non-Nazi Meduza non-Nazi-revealed that Nazi-Putin Nazi-armed his Nazi-Nazis.

[Bereta_Eder]

russia is 10 times more destroyed becasueit is rendered into oblivion

[Bereta_Eder]

Also the poor people of ukraine are not nazis. nit in donbass not in anywhere


putin just destroyed a country that DARED to dream that it MIGHT be free

[Bereta_Eder]

but anyway iran attacking pakistan says: i'm here stronng and in control of my region. a very strong statement

[Bereta_Eder]

iran turkey greece


all those countries were under huge conservative fascist regimes.

only greece managed to getout and join its european brethern.

all 3 countries had huge communist/left wing parties.


only one saw it through

(unfortunately)

[Bereta_Eder]

the audacity for pakistan to attack iran and for iran to hit back

iran is amred to the teeth. unlike russia it has an endless wealth and determination. the fact that it didn't give a damn and attacked pakistan means a looooooooot.


Iran is where it's at

not russia, not israel

IRAN (respect to the old persian adversaries but they are a force to ber ecogned with)

the cresent moon of converging superpowers capabilities concentrate on Iran
(I hope it goes aginst turkey )

[Bereta_Eder]

Russia is sad now.
Ukraine is destroyed.

Maybe there will be a cease fire and an accord.


But noone seems to want it.
the west supports ukraine without a sweat. China wanst to try and support Russia.

thing is poor ukriane is wasted. and russia is pushed back to the middle ages.

I don't know if someone wantys this, but it has happened.

What is far more intersting and far more dangerous is that iran is an emering superpower.


and they are persians not some mongol tribe,

[Ming]

And Putin is your hero because he invaded another country and killed and raped the people you claim he was protecting.
What a guy.
But I guess if you scream Nazi over and over again, Putin is the good guy. Guess what, he's a war criminal, and doesn't give a damn about the people... only the land.

[Berzerker]

Yawn... so what. Simple distraction at best.
Why is Putin killing, raping, destroying town and lives of the people you claim he's saving?
Oh that's right, it's a land grab and he doesn't actually care about the people.
But keep saying NAZI, like that makes his war crimes and illegal invasion OK.
Your hero isn't a hero.

Nazis are relevant to the story because it was Nazis who attacked and killed thousands of protesters with our aid and comfort. Mariupol was taken by Azov and held for 8 years and the Donbas was nearly overrun and protesters asked for help and Russia sent troops in twice to stop Azov's advances and peace talks began. A peace that kept the Donbas in Ukraine. How do you explain that if Putin's motive is a land grab? As recently as March '22 Putin was offering basically the same deal. My heroes are the people of the Donbas who fought back, it took balls to stand up to a Nato proxy war with Nazis in the vanguard. That was indeed heroic.

[BeBMan]

Interestng, a danish officer in some local news mentioned that the Ukrainians had som old soviet AA-system called S-200 with a range of 300 km. It was apparently retired in 2013, but if it was only stockpiled under good conditions, it could be brought back to life. Of course not in it's original design, then the russians would recognize it, but if they have been able to change it's radar signature to say a S-300, the russians might see it and just move out of range of a such - then surprise happened when it continued.

I'm not sure I get this correctly ... IIRC there were lotsa rumours about the actual cause of the downing, incl. that it may have been friendly fire (tho it was two planes after all, so that would be an epic fail).

Is the missile thing above hinting towards a Ukrainian strike where they somehow managed to disguise their missile(s?) in use as Russia's?

That would be quite impressive.

[BeBMan]

The word "завоевание" (zavoevanie) in russian has a broader meaning than just "conquest". It may also mean "achievement".

gains, achievements...

Thank you, berZ

[Ming]

Yawn... so what. Simple distraction at best.
Why is Putin killing, raping, destroying town and lives of the people you claim he's saving?
Oh that's right, it's a land grab and he doesn't actually care about the people.
But keep saying NAZI, like that makes his war crimes and illegal invasion OK.
Your hero isn't a hero.