Prediction Thread: When Will Ukraine Conquer Russia

[-Jrabbit]

Berz, for Trump, "sincerely held belief" just means that which serves his ends.
For him, it has nothing to do with the facts of the matter.
The fact that people like you think that's somehow an excuse for anything he does or has done, is a big part of the problem.

[BeBMan]

So basically the choice is that Trump is either a complete moron, or a nefarious liar (not excluding the possibility that he's both).

[BeBMan]

Interesting NATO chitchat

Classic example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_Die_for_Danzig%3F

Of course then Fra/UK did join the war after the attack on Poland - but without a decisive attempt to stop Germany (tho the reasons are surely more complex), and then things in the west turned into the Sitzkrieg quickly. In less than a year things changed so that they could not avoid all-out war anymore.

[Berzerker]

Nato is weaker than we think? And Russia is a helluva lot stronger. I've heard the Russian economy is doing well because the sanctions forced re-investment in Russia instead of oligarchs sending it abroad. China will back Russia in a war against Nato.

[Berzerker]

I think Trump sincerely believes the election was rigged right along with a big chunk of the GOP.

[BlackCat]

Interesting NATO chitchat

[Geronimo]

I guess the Trump supporters who continue to believe he actually won the election are upset that others tell lies as well.

Most of them aren't liars. They just loyally and enthusiastically quaff the kool-ade. I'm not even sure Trump is primarily a liar in this regard, although being deluded enough to treat his wishful thinking as established fact makes him even less suited to the presidency than the usual pathological liar behavior patterns.

[BeBMan]

Whoever did it was 8 years too late, at least.

[Ming]

The people spreading misinformation are upset by competition

I guess the Trump supporters who continue to believe he actually won the election are upset that others tell lies as well.

[N35t0r]

Should "X" be able to undermine such campaigns and bring them to light earlier than this?

X seems too busy running off advertisers to bother with actual content moderation or control.

[Berzerker]

oops, sorry... did they find the Russian soldiers who blew up their pipeline?

[Berzerker]

did they find the Ukrainian soldier who blew up their pipeline?

[Berzerker]

The people spreading misinformation are upset by competition

[Geronimo]

Should "X" be able to undermine such campaigns and bring them to light earlier than this?

[BeBMan]

Germany has uncovered a significant pro-Russia disinformation campaign using thousands of fake accounts on X to try to stir anger at Berlin’s support for Ukraine, a media report has said.

The revelations, first reported in Der Spiegel, come amid growing concern about the impact increasingly sophisticated disinformation campaigns could have on elections.

Experts commissioned by the German foreign ministry used specialised software to monitor posts on the online platform X, formerly known as Twitter, between 20 December and 20 January, Der Spiegel wrote.

They reportedly stumbled across more than 50,000 fake user accounts that together pumped out more than a million German-language tweets.

A common theme was the accusation that Olaf Scholz’s government was neglecting Germans in favour of helping Ukraine in its war against Russia, according to Spiegel, which said it had seen excerpts of the analysis.

The accounts also often linked to fake news stories on websites designed to resemble those of genuine media outlets, Spiegel said, leading analysts to connect it to the Russia-linked “doppelganger” campaign already known to authorities.

Nice try, folkZ.

snipsnapped from:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/jan/26/germany-unearths-pro-russia-disinformation-campaign-on-x