Prediction Thread: When Will Russia Conquer Ukraine

[Proteus_MST]

Of course, Serb will deny this as well: https://twitter.com/sumlenny/status/...kTp4mLwZjBppU4

He surely will also deny this:
https://twitter.com/rumeliobserver/s...57255442554886

https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1510372750665433089

After all Russia doesn't wage war against civilians

Of course, Serb will also not know what we`re talking about (unless he is using VPN), after all Twitter is blocked in Russia

[Egbert]

Looking forward to reading Serb's explanation of the strategic brilliance of Russia's retreat from the Kyiv area...

A successful advance to the rear.


I must say that I was astonished at the sheer lack of success by the Russians in the Ukraine.

There must have been enormous corruption in the military and serious faults in strategic leadership to create such a mess.

[-Jrabbit]

That much seems clear.

[pchang]

The Russians had expired food and not enough food. I’m sure the budget accounted for their food needs and that money had to go somewhere. Perhaps one of those yachts that got seized?

[Egbert]

The Russians had expired food and not enough food. I’m sure the budget accounted for their food needs and that money had to go somewhere. Perhaps one of those yachts that got seized?

In World War I Russian soldiers were sent into battle without guns because their officers had sold the guns. It appears that essential supplies have again been misappropriated and Russian soldiers because of it.

Umh. China also has a large and untested military with lots of toys. I wonder if Xi Jinping is wondering if the Chinese military actually maintains the equipment and actually has supplies of things life bullets, fuel and food.

[pchang]

There are many families in China who are far richer than can be accounted for based upon their government salaries.

[Dauphin]

I think that true of most countries. In the West, bribery and corruption is called 'lobbying'.

[-Jrabbit]

This is pretty pathetic. The mighty Russian army, reduced to petty looting...

Ukraine Says Russian Troops Are Looting Civilians' Homes On Their Way Out

Russian forces are driving goods across the border from Kyiv's suburbs and selling the loot, authorities claim.

By Sara Boboltz
Apr. 2, 2022, 05:45 PM EDT

Ukrainian authorities allege that retreating Russian troops are looting the homes of citizens around Kyiv, taking with them electronics, jewelry, cars, home appliances, children’s toys and other items of value.

The Ukrainian Defense Ministry said on Saturday that the Russians have opened a market for the stolen items across the border in Naroulia, Belarus.

“Not every military trophy reaches Russia,” the ministry said on Twitter alongside a photo of a bombed-out truck packed with charred items. “Hundreds of cars with loot from the suburbs of Kyiv ― from children’s toys, carpets to, as in this photo, washing machines, were grabbed in the last few days by retreating Russian troops.”

“Electronics, clothes, shoes, cosmetics. This is not an army. This is a disgrace,” a spokesperson for the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry, Oleg Nikolenko, said on Twitter.

“We will never forget and we will never forgive,” Nikolenko added.

The suburbs outside Kyiv have seen some of the most important battles in Russia’s war against Ukraine so far, as Russian forces tried and failed to encircle the capital city.

Many residents were forced to flee ― some under gunfire ― and join the ranks of the millions of people displaced by the five-week-old conflict.

Although Russian forces have been filing out of regions in northern Ukraine, including the Kyiv area, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy says they are booby-trapping the territory they leave in their wake with mines.

“They are mining homes, mining equipment, even the bodies of people who were killed,” Zelenskyy said in one of his nightly addresses, CBS News reported. “There are a lot of trip wires, a lot of other dangers.”

There is some evidence of looting where other Russian battalions are retreating: the Ukrainian defense ministry said on Facebook that a Russian “column of trucks with various properties,” including “industrial goods and household things,” was also spotted en route from the Ukrainian city of Buryn, which lies east of Kyiv, towards the Russian border, according to a translation from Business Insider.

Russian forces are abandoning certain areas in what may be an effort to regroup in other strategic regions to the east and south.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/russia-looting-ukraine-kyiv-homes-civilians_n_6248ad23e4b007d38456b22b

[Wezil]

This is pretty pathetic. The mighty Russian army, reduced to petty looting...

Yet they call the Ukrainians "bandits".

[BeBMan]

Pretty bad reports from a suburb of Kiev, Bucha, after the "liberators" left.

Now it's onwards to the Donbas to give Putin something to bragg about before May9.

[Dauphin]

Serb's also nearing the deadline on the Iraq comparison that he repeatedly made. iirc Iraq took 46 days (with a fraction of the casualties).

Just for random comparisons that have no meaning. Germany in WW2.

Took Denmark in six hours (the six hour war)
Took the Netherlands in a few days
Took Belgium in a few weeks.
Took Poland in just over a month.
Battle of France wasn't much longer, six weeks.
Barbarossa took the lands of Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Belarus and most of Ukraine (including Kyiv) in a little over two months.

[Wezil]

All good points but not the comparison that Serb made. It would be easier for him to wriggle out of our comparisons but it will take true acrobatics to wriggle out of his own.

[The Mad Monk]

[dannubis]

Pretty bad reports from a suburb of Kiev, Bucha, after the "liberators" left.

Now it's onwards to the Donbas to give Putin something to bragg about before May9.

Ukraine has a nazi problem alright.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oradour-sur-Glane_massacre

The parallels are striking.

[BeBMan]

Some may think de-nazification of Ukraine made a huge leap forward when the Russian military retreated from the Kiyv region...

[Bereta_Eder]

Immense war crimes by Russia that should be investigated and Putin charged with crimes against humanity.

Russia is screwed. the whole west so through putin's bluff.

Also, how can you trust someone who always lies lies lies.

Onme day before the invasion begun lavrov met with the greek foreign affairs minister and assured him there will be no invasion. Then the latter said it out loud. One day later, invasion.


If you lie people don't trust you

[Bereta_Eder]

Also the city that these attrocities have happened "Buca" literally translates to "heavy d ck" in greek which is exactly what awaits putin