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  • Originally posted by Buster Crabbe's Uncle View Post
    More likely he's just too embarrassed.
    Also posssible ... just of what:
    Of the embarassing military performance of the russian army when trying to conquer Kiev?

    Or of the atrocities that the russian army commited at Buchan and other locations (which, however, according to russian propaganda either were just a fabrication of western media, or were actually commited by the ukrainian army itself)
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    • Originally posted by Proteus_MST View Post

      Also posssible ... just of what:
      Of the embarassing military performance of the russian army when trying to conquer Kiev?

      Or of the atrocities that the russian army commited at Buchan and other locations (which, however, according to russian propaganda either were just a fabrication of western media, or were actually commited by the ukrainian army itself)
      I'd go with the former. i suspect anyone who thinks nuclear war is a good idea doesn't care too much for civilians (or anyone else for that matter).
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      • No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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        • Originally posted by -Jrabbit View Post
          Doubtful; he's a cyber security worker, and those are mission critical in modern warfare, as we have been witnessing.

          Of course, he's pretty far away from the front lines, so who knows...
          Serb claimed to be drinking US beer while posting (incl. pic) and that he'd drive a Lexus.

          Just like ppl do in the weak, decadent west ...
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          • <snip>. Thanks for straightening me out on that
            Last edited by Geronimo; April 5, 2022, 08:54.

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            • pchang
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              Where did you get that impression?

          • Local news says that the finns and swedes are pretty close to join NATO - will be interesting to see how the russians will react
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            • I expect a lot of harsh language including the words "encirclement" and/or "russophobia". Plus air/naval movements, hopefully nothing that leads to any sort of open confrontation. But that would be the rational reaction so
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              • If the Russians think the Ukrainians are giving them problems....wait until they are re-introduced to the Finns.
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                • Originally posted by BlackCat View Post
                  Local news says that the finns and swedes are pretty close to join NATO - will be interesting to see how the russians will react
                  Uh oh, isn't thinking about joining an act of war?

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                  • Originally posted by PLATO View Post
                    If the Russians think the Ukrainians are giving them problems....wait until they are re-introduced to the Finns.
                    As far as I know, Pekka is still alive.
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                  • Last edited by My Wife Hates CIV; July 5, 2022, 22:01.

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                    • I think the poll in the OP needs to update the victory conditions:

                      The other day, Dmitry Medvedev, who kept the presidential seat warm for Vladimir Putin for a four-year term between 2008 and 2012, announced that Russia was building a power base that would spread from Vladivostok in the Russian far east to Portugal in the west.
                      Found this gem in https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61018275 (almost at the end)

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                      • Today one of the least reputable UN bodies, the UNHRC, is to vote on removing Russia as a member. While I agree with the idea it is an awful lot like a mafia syndicate voting to remove a crime family because they crime too much. China, currently committing genocide, will be one of the member states passing judgement. It would be hilarious if it weren't so sad/pathetic.
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                        • Originally posted by BeBro View Post
                          I think the poll in the OP needs to update the victory conditions:



                          Found this gem in https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61018275 (almost at the end)

                          This would only be expected as the outcome of open conflict with NATO. Putin's grand plan may involve engineering a pretext for a strike on NATO which he imagines will lead to an ignored article 5 by Washington. I'm sure he thinks the rest of NATO would not dare oppose him without the US or at least its strategic stockpile to back them up. Then he imagines Russia would impose it's terms on the whole of Europe with a few stark ultimatums. Terms that would exclude a faithless united states.


                          The stakes are potentially that high and Russia's conventional meltdown in Ukraine may not only be very temporary, as Russia still has the luxury of dialing in it's invasion, but the invasion of Ukraine itself may not even be the main event.

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                          • pchang
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                            All they need to pull this off is a 2nd Trump presidency.

                          • Geronimo
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                        • Last edited by My Wife Hates CIV; July 5, 2022, 22:01.

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