Prediction Thread: When Will Russia Conquer Ukraine

[Broken_Erika]

Canadian intelligence agency calls out false Russian claim Ukraine is harvesting organs

CSE says Russia also pushing narratives falsely claiming only military targets were being attacked

Russia has been spreading false claims that Ukraine has been harvesting the organs of fallen soldiers and children as Russia tries to garner support for its invasion, according to a new, rare warning from Canada's foreign signals intelligence agency.

On Friday, the Communications Security Establishment (CSE) tweeted some observations gleaned from its intelligence of what it calls Russian-backed disinformation campaigns.

The agency said there's been a co-ordinated effort by Russia to create and spread false claims that Ukraine was harvesting organs of fallen soldiers, women and children, and using mobile cremators to dispose of the evidence.

Russia has also "created and amplified fake stories and narratives falsely claiming that only military targets were being attacked, and that civilian causalities in Ukraine were lower than what confirmed, verifiable reports have shown," said CSE.

"Equally, we've seen Russia's efforts to promote stories that falsely categorize Russian protesters and citizens opposed to the invasion as supporting neo-Nazis and genocide."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cse-russia-disinformation-1.6404933

[Wezil]

I'm shocked. It sounded so plausible.

[Proteus_MST]

If it was a false flag they would have struck a target more likely to generate outrage. Serb would probably be distraught at the loss of a fuel terminal but I doubt most Russians would,

On the other hand, striking a fuel depot makes incredible sense from the Ukrainian point of view.

I totally agree.
For a russian false flag operation it would have made more sense to hit something like a school, a hospital or a kindergarten.

The explosion of a fuel depot (or an ammunition dump) on the other hand may actually cause supply problems for the russian forces in Ukraina, so would actually help the Ukrainians

[Proteus_MST]

Russia is already training the next generation of cannon fodder ... in order to replace the losses suffered in Ukraina:

https://twitter.com/kolezev/status/1509856138245951491

[Broken_Erika]

Ukraine war: Gruesome evidence points to war crimes on road outside Kyiv

Footage of Russian troops shooting a man with his hands up on a highway outside Kyiv at the beginning of March was shared around the world. Now the Russians have been pushed out of the area and the BBC's Jeremy Bowen has been to see the grim aftermath of their short-lived occupation.


We counted 13 bodies on a nightmarish stretch of road not much more than 200 yards long, between Mria and Myla, villages whose Ukrainian names translate as Dream and Sweetheart.

Two of the dead are confirmed as Ukrainian civilians who were killed by the Russians. The others have not been identified yet - they lie where they were killed - but only two are wearing recognisable Ukrainian military uniforms.

Our BBC team was able to get to the area, on the main E-40 highway as it approaches Kyiv, because Ukrainian forces had captured the sector only 10 hours earlier.

The marks of battle and of heavy shelling were everywhere. Petrol stations and a hotel that was well-known for its spa and restaurant were in ruins. Shell holes and craters pockmarked both carriageways.

Ukrainian troops changing a wheel in the ruins of a roadside garage said the Russians were about 4km (2.5 miles) away and had pulled their remaining men and armour back after a hard fight, lasting several days, in the early hours of the morning.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60949791

[The Mad Monk]

So.

Who wants to start a poll on when Ukraine will conquer Russia?

[Geronimo]

Is it possible it's neither Ukrainian, nor false flag but instead a couple Russian pilots went rogue?

[My Wife Hates CIV]

[EPW]

Is it possible it's neither Ukrainian, nor false flag but instead a couple Russian pilots went rogue?

I think that's what the Ukrainians want us to think.

[My Wife Hates CIV]

[BeBMan]

I think it was Ninjas.

[Proteus_MST]

In Moscow you need to be very careful.
Now, not only holding a white sheet of paper can get you arrested, but even holding a bunch of white tulips

https://twitter.com/avalaina/status/1510257346387357707

Seems like holding flowers in public is seen as a public action aimed at discrediting the armed forces

[-Jrabbit]

Looking forward to reading Serb's explanation of the strategic brilliance of Russia's retreat from the Kyiv area...

[Wezil]

Serb's also nearing the deadline on the Iraq comparison that he repeatedly made. iirc Iraq took 46 days (with a fraction of the casualties).

[pchang]

Of course, Serb will deny this as well: https://twitter.com/sumlenny/status/...kTp4mLwZjBppU4