An actual political thread

[Kidlicious]

Everytime Joe Biden gets the chance he tells people that Trump said that white supremacists are good people, which is a verified lie. I would be curious to know how many times he has falsely accused Trump of that. Obviously a lot of Democrats believe that lie. I would call it The Big Lie, but I don't want to sound like a Nazi.

So forgive me when I think you sound crazy accusing Republicans of denying facts. The way you respond to any explanation of why that is wrong says a lot.

[Ming]

You sound crazy. Calling those outside of your cult crazy only works on those in your cult. Like Jim Jones only got his cult members to drink the kool-aid. He could never get outsiders to do that.

Yet another nonsense response from kid...
But to be expected

[Ming]

Everytime Joe Biden gets the chance he tells people that Trump said that white supremacists are good people, which is a verified lie. I would be curious to know how many times he has falsely accused Trump of that. Obviously a lot of Democrats believe that lie. I would call it The Big Lie, but I don't want to sound like a Nazi.

So forgive me when I think you sound crazy accusing Republicans of denying facts. The way you respond to any explanation of why that is wrong says a lot.

Trump was the most lying president in modern history, and used his bully pulpit to insult people and make up lies about them...

And please come up with your facts how you "know" that a LOT of Democrats believe whatever it is you are claiming they do.

Here are the facts... TRUMP LOST.
THERE IS NO PROOF he won in a landslide or that there was any massive voter fraud. all the audits done so far prove him wrong, even the ones done on his say. The courts have thrown out every suit he has brought, usually for lack of evidence.
But over 70% believe his lie... which is actual survey data.
It's the repugs who are crazy who still believe the Trump lies that he keeps telling. Even after the third time he has been proven to have lost Arizona, he still says he won and that their was massive fraud. He is delusional.
And so are all his cult members that also believe his likes.
Also, you must be wrong, you had to resort to bringing up the Nazis.

But continue to live in Trumpland, where he won, and he is your lord and master... it takes a real sucker to keep falling for the same con man. Remember to send some more money, or maybe you can buy one of his Trump coins

[Kidlicious]

Definitely support Trump over Biden or Kamala Harris, because Biden is like a ****ing demon or something and Kamala Harris just does what she's told.

[Ming]

Blah blah blah... all made up nonsense... did you read that at some alt right propaganda site...
He's a demon...

[Kidlicious]

He's uncommonly wicked.

[Kidlicious]

7 ways to spot a fed at a Trump Rally, by the Babylon Bee.

1. Look for the telltale military cuts, FBI badges, and stains of blood from their secret Satanic child sacrifice ring: All clear signs this person may not be who they claim.

2. Says "Greetings fellow Trump supporters, would you like to insurrect something on this fine morning?": Something feels off here.

3. Keeps calling you "Mr. Anderson" for some reason: And they keep calling you the chosen one and trying to kill you. Weird!

4. Their MAGA hat is clearly just an FBI hat with duct tape over it: FBI agents are not known for their creative disguises.

5. Look for their forked lizard tongue and reptilian eyes: They will usually flick their tongues and hiss if you show them a LEGO set.

6. Screeches in terror at the name of Donald Trump: Plus, touching the Art of the Deal will burn their hands.

7. Their Apple AirPods have a curly wire hanging down and look suspiciously like an FBI earpiece - They may claim they're just jamming along to Carly Rae Jepsen, but they're really waiting for the go-ahead to take you down.

[Kidlicious]

Look. There's no hoax being perpetrated against Americans to make them believe that the presidential election was stolen. Trump was ahead when America went to sleep, but when we all woke up they gave Joe Biden just about enough votes to win in just above the exact number of swing states so that he would win the election. That's cause for suspicion. If you don't understand that then you are either lying or you are brainwashed.

Now there was a hoax perpetrated against the American people which I've already talked about. That's the Russian disinformation hoax, which involved the media and ex-officials.

[Ming]

Look. There's no hoax being perpetrated against Americans to make them believe that the presidential election was stolen. Trump was ahead when America went to sleep, but when we all woke up they gave Joe Biden just about enough votes to win in just above the exact number of swing states so that he would win the election. That's cause for suspicion. If you don't understand that then you are either lying or you are brainwashed.

No... it's called counting ALL THE VOTES.
Anybody that doesn't understand that and thinks that's suspicious is either brain dead or brain washed.
It takes time to count ALL the votes.
And there is a reason why they don't call the election until the votes are counted and not when only "some" of them are.

[Egbert]

No... it's called counting ALL THE VOTES.
Anybody that doesn't understand that and thinks that's suspicious is either brain dead or brain washed.
It takes time to count ALL the votes.
And there is a reason why they don't call the election until the votes are counted and not when only "some" of them are.

I am glad I stopped being braindead so I can now understand this.

[Kidlicious]

No... it's called counting ALL THE VOTES.
Anybody that doesn't understand that and thinks that's suspicious is either brain dead or brain washed.
It takes time to count ALL the votes.
And there is a reason why they don't call the election until the votes are counted and not when only "some" of them are.

There's no reason to expect people to believe that they were just counting all the votes. Only stupid people would think that or they just don't care.

[BeBMan]

The fight to succeed popular, long-serving chancellor Angela Merkel could barely be tighter as Germans vote in parliamentary elections.


While the streets of Berlin hosted the annual marathon, the biggest race was taking place across the country.



The three candidates vying to succeed the chancellor voted in warm late-summer sunshine, as final polls put Mrs Merkel's conservatives in second place.



At stake is the leadership of Europe's most powerful economy.



More than 60 million Germans over 18 are eligible to vote and long queues were reported outside polling stations in Berlin.



Voting ends at 18:00 (17:00 BST) and the first exit polls in this unpredictable election come out immediately.




The race looked over until the outgoing chancellor entered the fray in support of the conservative candidate, her career at the top of German politics now weeks from coming to an end.



"It really matters who's in power," she warned voters repeatedly in the 48 hours before the vote. Her message was that Germany needed stability and its youth needed a future - and Armin Laschet was the man to provide it.


All bets are off



There are plenty of uncertainties about this election. In the run-up, more than a third of voters were still unsure who to vote for, although a record number have already posted their votes in.



Calling on all Germans to vote, President Frank-Walter Steinmeier said: "Whoever takes part will be heard, whoever does not vote lets others decide for them."



image source, Reuters
image captionWhile 25,000 runners took part in the Berlin marathon, a bigger race was going on across 16 German states

For months the opinion polls have swayed this way and that. The conservative CDU and its Bavarian sister party led initially, and at one point the Greens went in front, but then came a surge for the Social Democrats under Olaf Scholz.



Of the three candidates competing for the role of chancellor it is Mr Scholz who has galvanised voters most. As Mrs Merkel's deputy it has been easier for him than for his conservative rival to be seen as the continuity candidate.


But even if he wins he will most likely need the support of two other parties to form a coalition.


"The most important coalition for me is with the voters, because the stronger they make the SPD, the easier it will be for me to form a government," he says.


Climate crisis is key


For the Greens this is their biggest moment yet. Climate change is currently the biggest issue for German voters and the party has only once polled more than 10% in a federal election.



image source, EPA
image captionLike Olaf Scholz, Greens candidate Annalena Baerbock is standing in Potsdam outside Berlin

But their candidate for the top job, Annalena Baerbock, has lost support over the summer, despite catastrophic floods that left at least 190 people dead and left a trail of destruction in two of the most populous states.


All three candidates for chancellor voted during the morning, and there was some concern when Mr Laschet folded his ballot paper wrongly, displaying his choice to photographers.


Judging from a random sample of people in Berlin's sprawling Alexanderplatz ahead of the vote, even though climate change is their highest priority, they think the other parties are quite capable of addressing it too.



Conservative Armin Laschet told voters on Saturday it was time to speed up the move to renewable energy: "We're too slow in Germany."



media captionAction to tackle climate change needs to be just and fair, says German campaigner Luisa Neubauer.

The liberal FDP may disagree with the Greens on plenty, but on climate change they are drawing in young voters too. Both parties have a good chance of being in government and both could be kingmakers.


"The next government is the last that can still have an active influence on the climate crisis," Annalena Baerbock warned Germans during one of the final TV debates, so the Greens had to be part of it, she said.


But liberal leader Christian Lindner does not believe Germany needs to go the same way as the Greens.


No-one will follow us as world champions of morality. But as world champions in technology, we can show people a perspective and create new growth

Christian Lindner
FDP leader

Not over till it's over



Even if a clear winner emerges on Sunday evening, Germans will not know the make-up of their government for some time.



The victorious party still needs to form a coalition and there seems little chance of a repeat of the two-party grand coalition currently in charge.



That is why Germans are talking about traffic-light, Jamaica or Kenya coalitions, reflecting the different colour schemes of the parties potentially involved.







If it's the centre left then look for the red, yellow and green; if it's the conservatives, it could be black, yellow and green.


Until that is all sorted Angela Merkel won't be going anywhere.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-58690645

[Ming]

There's no reason to expect people to believe that they were just counting all the votes. Only stupid people would think that or they just don't care.

Only brain dead people still believe the lies that have been disproven EVERY TIME.
Trump has now lost Arizona three times. And after 3 audits, one even done by one of the most biased sources (bought and paid for by the Trump Cult) have shown there was no massive fraud, Trump is still ranting like a maniac that he won

Only really stupid people don't understand that it takes time to count ALL the votes... OH, and PLEASE let us know when you find any actual proof that Trump didn't lose... don't hold your breath.

[Kidlicious]

Just more strawmen. Everyone knows that Democrats would claim that the election was stolen. Your little smoke and mirrors tricks only work on your fellow brainwashed cult members.

[Ming]

Just more strawmen. Everyone knows that Democrats would claim that the election was stolen. Your little smoke and mirrors tricks only work on your fellow brainwashed cult members.

Spoken like a true brain dead repug.

Only morons think you can win an election before all the votes have been counted.
Or I should say, only morons, cult members, and republicans.