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  • #61
    Whoever hired him is going to get sued though.
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    • #62
      Murder 1 is premeditated or death that happens while committing a felony.

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      • #63
        Heres all the images in a gif. Can't vouch for the editing/not. Still at least two missing photos, the ones during the draw.

        Warning: Graphic

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        • #64
          It may be due to his unlicensed carrying, so it was death while committing a felony?

          JM
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          • #65
            Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
            Whoever hired him is going to get sued though.
            I saw, first thing that I looked up upon seeing Dinner's craziness, is that he was hired by a NBC affiliate.

            JM
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            • #66
              Originally posted by Jon Miller View Post

              I saw, first thing that I looked up upon seeing Dinner's craziness, is that he was hired by a NBC affiliate.

              JM
              I think they deny that they hired him, but that's to be expected since it's a huge liability.
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              • #67
                Originally posted by Jon Miller View Post
                It may be due to his unlicensed carrying, so it was death while committing a felony?

                JM
                Yah, most likely way. Is that and/or acting as security guard without license a felony? Other way would be they have evidence of a plot to sucker someone into attacking.

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                • #68
                  When Madonna went back on her promise to give everyone who voted for Hillary a BJ....I can understand why these guys would be pissed at this governor also.

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                  • #69
                    Denver shooter says he thought victim was reaching for a gun (not shooter's). Not a good defense.
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by BlackCat View Post

                      Prime BS. The man shot dead attacked another person that just defended his life, he was even a security person - that isn't in an act of terorrism.

                      https://www.denverpost.com/2020/10/1...ooting-photos/

                      Oh, totally forgot Oerdin, but he was just wrong as ususal.
                      You are factually incorrect. The attacker lunged at the guy aggressively attempting to grab/take his pepper spray. The defender then slapped him a way (slapping his assailant in the face) to prevent the theft. The defender then backed away to put distance between himself and his assailant. The attacker the. Pulled out his pistol and shot him dead.

                      The defender hadn’t even used the pepper spray it was way to late. I doubt there is a court in the IS which would call that self defense.
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Dinner View Post

                        You are factually incorrect. The attacker lunged at the guy aggressively attempting to grab/take his pepper spray. The defender then slapped him a way (slapping his assailant in the face) to prevent the theft. The defender then backed away to put distance between himself and his assailant. The attacker the. Pulled out his pistol and shot him dead.

                        The defender hadn’t even used the pepper spray it was way to late. I doubt there is a court in the IS which would call that self defense.
                        I'm pretty sure that you are watching pretty weird youtubes - that one you linked to was pretty sick - I had to clean both my eyes, screen and computer to gain sanity.

                        Fact is that a nutcase attacked a protection guy. The agressor started with hand attacks and escalated to serious pepper spraying on the defender before that guy decided his life was endangered and took a shot against the criminal.
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                        • #72
                          Honestly, those links that Oerdin link s to are probably made by North Korea or China.
                          With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Kidicious View Post
                            Denver shooter says he thought victim was reaching for a gun (not shooter's). Not a good defense.
                            Given the photos and video available now it may be enough to convince a jury that it's not beyond reasonable doubt. I don't know if Colorado law allows for self defense plea for felony murder though, or if this would be felony murder.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by Dinner View Post

                              You are factually incorrect. The attacker lunged at the guy aggressively attempting to grab/take his pepper spray. The defender then slapped him a way (slapping his assailant in the face) to prevent the theft. The defender then backed away to put distance between himself and his assailant. The attacker the. Pulled out his pistol and shot him dead.

                              The defender hadn’t even used the pepper spray it was way to late. I doubt there is a court in the IS which would call that self defense.
                              Frame by frame from Denver post in cronological order.
                              A man was shot and killed Saturday after a conflict with a private security guard in downtown Denver. Denver Post photojournalist Helen Richardson witnessed the shooting firsthand. A total of 71 im…


                              From the photos:

                              Sprayer turned to Shooter pointing mace
                              {unknown, but Sprayer moves to Shooter's location}
                              Sprayer is starting swing at Shooter, Sprayer is leaning into Shooter, Shooter is vertical, Shooter has left hand at chest height at most light contact, right hand at midsection height no contact, both hands in position to hold off Sprayer, not attacking. Sprayer's mace at hip.
                              Shooter's hands are stationary or slightly moving back to body before hit.
                              Sprayer hits Shooter, knocking Shooter back a step, Shooter's hat off, Shooter's glasses askew, Shooter's left hand is near Sprayer's left armpit due to Sprayer's swing.

                              That last frame is where you seem to be starting, as it's the one where claims that Shooter was reaching for Sprayer's mace and/or gun come from. Shooter is being knocked back at that moment, his hands not moving or moving back towards his body, and not near the mace. Incidentally near the gun, but that is due to left side of Sprayer twisting towards Shooter's left arm while swinging.

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                              • #75
                                I don't believe there's a break in the photots between Sprayer turning and approaching Shooter. There's also missing images of the draw. Why they are not releasing those photos I don't know. They seem critical.

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