Wot no coronavirus thread? Part 2

[Kidlicious]

Donald Trump: As of the end of FY 2020, the debt was $26.9 trillion. Trump added $6.7 trillion to the debt since Obama's last budget.

4/3*6.7= 8.9 trillion per 4 years.

Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 73.6% increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget in 2009.

8.588/2= 4.3 trillion per 4 years.

George W. Bush: Added $5.849 trillion, a 101% increase from the $5.8 trillion debt at the end of Clinton's last budget, FY 2001.

5.849/2= 2.9 trillion per 4 years.

Bill Clinton: Added $1.396 trillion, a 31.6% increase from the $4.4 trillion debt at the end of George H.W. Bush's last budget.

1.396/2= 0.7 trillion per 4 years.

Looks like Trump is by far the worse.

JM
https://www.thebalance.com/us-debt-b...ercent-3306296

None of this changes the real issue, which is that long term damage is being done to the capacity of America to produce, including children's education, which is reducing their future capacity to produce and pay off this debt (which the government is incurring in their name.)

[Ming]

The fact is that your agenda is horrible for America, piling debt onto children and future generations. You're destroying American culture, turning the country into something more like Communist China. You are teaching children that they aren't entitled to go to school and have a normal life. You are brainwashing them to blame other Americans, including the President, instead of China.

And that's just the tip of the iceburg.

First, as JM pointed out, Trumps agenda has been piling more debt onto children and generations than previous presidents
So this BS that it doesn't change anything is just BS... But as usual, you blame the Dems for something that Trump is doing.
Nice try...

And talk about Destroying American Culture... Let's start with all men are created equal... For Trump, all men are created equal as long are white and are christian. He has constantly shown his disdain for all other groups by his words and actions.
And how about "“Give me your tired, your poor,/ Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free”... our country has thrived due to immigration... but now, unless your "kind" is approved by Trump, Trump doesn't want you.
And then there is "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you — ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." Trump, the draft dodger is only interested in himself and what America can do for him...
And talk about turning the country into something like Communist China, we have Trump destroying democracy and trying to destroy the constitution with his lame attempts to stay in power, kind of like most would be dictators...
Oh, and PLEASE point out who is "teaching children that they aren't entitled to go to school and have a normal life"...
Keep schools closed is a temporary measure to protect more Americans from dying, but then again, we know your attitude on American Dying... It's ok as long as you are comfortable.

And finally... "You are brainwashing them to blame other Americans, including the President, instead of China."

Again, sure, the virus originated in China... but the President and other Americans aren't doing everything they can to slow down the virus and protect other Americans, and that's a FACT. But I guess in kidland, saying the truth means brainwashing if it doesn't support the spoon fed propaganda being spoon fed to them by the right.
Blaming China is a waste of time... especially when you try to add in wack job conspiracy theories like it was done on purpose to keep Trump from getting elected or it was done on purpose to destroy America and the World Economy. Please let us know when you can actually prove that instead of just tweeting it.
What isn't a waste of time is doing everything we can to slow the spread until enough vaccines are available to help us to possibly get this under control so we can live normal lives.

Your iceberg is more like an crushed ice...

[Kidlicious]

It's the debt/gdp that you need to be looking at. That what I just told JM, which you seem to have not read. That ratio has exploded during the pandemic. It's higher than ever (over 100%). You propose just to keep increasing it at the same rate, without restarting the economy. You also propose not letting students go back to school, which you don't even deny damages their long-term ability to pay for the debt that you are piling onto them.

You have some kind of strawman going. You aren't defending your position with anything.

[Ming]

Straw man...
Americans are dying every 33 seconds, and your agenda is to make money...
But I guess as long as you don't get sick and die, and you get to stay comfortable by not wearing a mask and thinking everything is normal and you can act like you want, you are OK with others Dying...
And yeah, I'm up for protecting our children and their families by TEMPORARILY closing schools until we get this under control. If we get this under control by everybody simply doing the common sense things, they will be back to school soon enough, and it will BE HEALTHY AND SAFE for them and their families. The alternative is more deaths, more hardship, and a much slower recovery to when we can actually be back to normal.
But feel free to blindly accept that all the debt Trump has passed on to our children, with a lot of it coming from tax breaks to his rich buddies and himself is a good thing...

[Kidlicious]

Bills have to be paid Ming or future generations become debt slaves.

[pchang]

Umm, I hate to break it to you, but you are already a debt slave.

[Ming]

And Trump has guaranteed future generations of debt slaves.
Trump isn't paying the bills... he's just paying off his buddies and himself with our children's money

[Kidlicious]

Again, that has nothing to do with what should be done right now. You aren't defending your position.

[Ming]

What has to be done right now is for Americans to do the common sense things to slow down the virus until the vaccine is available to more people... to keep fewer Americans from dying...
But you refuse to address that and just want to talk about lame supposed agendas and how your comfort is more important than American Lives...
So yeah, let's actually talk about what needs to be done NOW...

[-Jrabbit]

January 6th was another record-setting day, both for new COVID-19 cases (260,973) and deaths (4,100).

[Ming]

And Trump is to busy inciting riots and whining about how he won every state, and that his landslide victory was stolen from him to actually be bothered to deal with the worst crisis of our times... Looking forward to a new administration that will actually do their job and try to save American lives.

[giblets]

What is the left wing agenda?

[pchang]

No idea, but the Right Wing Agenda appears to be "Kill as many old people as possible to save on Medicare and Social Security." First they botched the response to the virus and now they are botching the vaccine rollout.

[BeBMan]

What is the left wing agenda?

Obvsly to destroy America. Like they did under Obama. Only assaulting pizzerias and/or the Capitol can stop them

[Kidlicious]

America is done. That's just the beginning.

[Ming]

Trump is done... a new chance to stop slowing down the virus with an administration that will actually try to do so will begin shortly.

[Broken_Erika]

America is done. That's just the beginning.

That's exactly what they were saying when Obama won.