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[Berzerker]

No, the science shows if you got covid you're better protected from Omicron than vaccinated people... By this point most everyone has either been vaccinated or gotten covid, the boosters dont help the latter. That is good to know.

[Berzerker]

I got the 2 shots about 15 months ago and considered a booster, I'm waiting to see if they come up with a better nasal vaccine because I'm not getting a shot every year. I've done so much damage to my airways maybe the virus cant get started.

[Berzerker]

get yer vitamin D folks - big study shows a 1/3rd reduction in mortality for people with good levels... and lose weight

its kinda weird how fat is such a major factor, its like the body's organs get squished together maybe even at a cellular level making it easier for bugs to jump to other organs. Or maybe thats just gibberish

[Berzerker]

thank god for that, but did you get the shots first and then caught covid?

[Uncle Sparky]

The same is true for STDs. Just ask Trump.

[N35t0r]

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-...-affected.html

More evidence natural immunity acquired from covid infection is better... still better... than a vaccination

boosters dont help people who already got infected but do help people who got the original 2 shots

So you're telling me that my best chance to avoid catching COVID is to catch COVID?

Good to know.

[SlowwHand]

I did get the first two due to doctors recommendations. That's going to be it.
I don't do flu shots either.

[Broken_Erika]

I have both, i've probably been infected and i have the Vaccinations. Of course covid has evolved to be less deadly in order to spread better..........

[Berzerker]

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2022-12-benefits-booster-dose-omicron-affected.html

More evidence natural immunity acquired from covid infection is better... still better... than a vaccination

boosters dont help people who already got infected but do help people who got the original 2 shots

[Uncle Sparky]

Coke is produced by heating coal at high temperatures, for long periods of time...
Coincidence?

[Broken_Erika]

Coca-Cola Christmas truck in flames in Romania

Coca-Cola Christmas truck in flames in Romania

A Coca-Cola truck caught fire while driving down a busy road in Romania’s capital Bucharest.
It is unclear how the fire started. The driver managed to leave the vehicle before it was engulfed in flames.
Firefighters later arrived to put out the blaze, and there were no reports of injuries.
The soft drink company told local media it was taking measures to prevent further incidents.

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-63829299

[Berzerker]

look at what chicken pox did to the new world, it was about 20-30ky ago when that population split from the old world and these bugs are even older

did the Vikings bring a plague to N America?

otoh as you say we've probably already seen the bugs that were around back then but I'm worried about what these people will do with the viruses they find ala Wuhan bat virus manipulations

[Dinner]

I am not so worried about permafrost viruses or bacteria as they already were evolutionarially out competited once and are unlikely to be better adapted now. I suppose there is the odd danger that they have been out of circulation for so long that they might become novel again. I am not sure that is really so though as evolutionary adaption seems to be extremely long lasting.

[Berzerker]

in Covid news a recent study found vaccinated people were more likely to get infected than unvaccinated people

well, sorta... the study found people who got vaccinated were indeed getting infected more than the unvaccinated but the reason was they let up on their personal 'social distancing'. The data showed for about 2-3 weeks after the shots antibodies spiked enough to ward off serious infection but as they declined and the people loosened up on social distancing they were actually getting infected at higher rates than unvaccinated people.

So Fauci and his backing chorus in the media told people they wouldn't get or spread Covid if they got vaccinated resulting in more vaccinated and unvaccinated people getting infected as the 'safe' people roamed freely.

in related news, some French institution has recovered living viruses from permafrost that can infect organisms. They say we need to study them in case they're released by global warming.

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[pchang]

Yes. Fermentation appears to be key.